Pacuqiao beat a weight drained de la hoya

[Benny Leonard]

dlh was already within 140-155 2-3 weeks getting into his training and he had a 2-week headstart compared to manny. he had enough time to shed his weight gradually. even his dream team was boasting about it - it was scientific. moreover, the fact that they accepted the fight meant that they could win the fight. even pac drained himself in the last barrera and jmm fight and walked away victorious.

i just watched the fight again and i believe it was the body punches that made dlh weak. dlh might not be in his prime but pac moving 2 divisions higher from 135 where he only fought once was phenomenal. it's not only winning a fight against an opponent where the boxing experts gave odlh an 8-10 advantage but how pac dismantled and annihilated him. even pbf and b-hop didn't make odlh look bad like pac did.

Besides Freddie saying what he said prior to the fight by basically saying Oscar was shot...this is from the interview that was just posted:

[B]8CN – Were you surprised by how little Oscar weighed come fight time?




Freddie Roach – The thing is, he shrunk up his stomach so small that he couldn't get any food in him. I knew that at that low weigh,t after 3 rounds that he would be done. We just looked at that, and I told Manny that we will get him in the later rounds.[/B]

http://www.8countnews.com/news/125/A...008-12-07.html

[FasTHarD]

pacquaio is 1 dimensional with that jab jab staright left, de la hoya would have counter and knocked pacuqaio out normally, or just rush him like he did mayweather, remember the mayweather fight was at 154 and de la hoya came in at 162 on fight night

I know your sad.. Your prediction turn into nightmare... Im felt sorry for you... So stop that excuses..... Oskee can't pull the trigge indeed.... Hatton, Mayweather next..... Pacman will still prevail... You know whats the excuses again?


Here it is...
Hatton - Garbage of Mayweather
Mayweather - Ring rust....

So on and so fourth.....

[flipside]

just wait when joartcc comes here.

[dino]

if you followed 24/7, you would know that de la hoya trained as a welterweight at around 145 while manny trained at around 150. he's trainer and camp wanted oscar to fight at around this weight and thought this would have a positive effect but the opposite happened. as well before the fight even nacho said he was in good condition and did not have problems sparring for 12 rounds

dont tarnish the victory, paquiao won that fair and square. i dont think oscar is as shot as people think he is(watched the fight 3 times), pacman was just 'perfect' tonight imo. south paw + speed(nacho said "you can not handle his speed" before stopping the fight) + peek + style + p4p = pacman tko8 for oscar


give credit to where its due

last time de la hoya weighed this least amout of pounds was 1996 against miguel gonazalez, this fight was a fluke

I know your sad.. Your prediction turn into nightmare... Im felt sorry for you... So stop that excuses..... Oskee can't pull the trigge indeed.... Hatton, Mayweather next..... Pacman will still prevail... You know whats the excuses again?


Here it is...
Hatton - Garbage of Mayweather
Mayweather - Ring rust....

So on and so fourth.....

[JaNnO]

but who believed freddie among the so-called boxing experts? a handful?
granted he was not in his prime but he is far being shot. pac made him look shot. odlh will make hatton run for his money imho. too bad hatton pussied first and fight malignaggi instead.

lol, now that pac had a major pwnage of odlh, he is suddenly shot.

Besides Freddie saying what he said prior to the fight by basically saying Oscar was shot...this is from the interview that was just posted:

[B]8CN – Were you surprised by how little Oscar weighed come fight time?




Freddie Roach – The thing is, he shrunk up his stomach so small that he couldn't get any food in him. I knew that at that low weigh,t after 3 rounds that he would be done. We just looked at that, and I told Manny that we will get him in the later rounds.[/B]

http://www.8countnews.com/news/125/A...008-12-07.html

[Double_L]

DLH should never fight at 147 again. I think he would've looked 5x better at 154.

[nelsoncm]

Manny beats up Oscar and suddenly he's shot.

Wasn't it Oscar himself who said what am I doing at 154? I can even make 140. I feel strong at this weight.

If it was Floyd in there with Oscar, it could be a split decision for Floyd again, and people wouldn't be saying Oscar was that shot.

Manny did this to Morales and Barrera in case you forgot.

[nujabes77]

"if you followed 24/7, you would know that de la hoya trained as a welterweight at around 145 while manny trained at around 150. he's trainer and camp wanted oscar to fight at around this weight and thought this would have a positive effect but the opposite happened. as well before the fight even nacho said he was in good condition and did not have problems sparring for 12 rounds

dont tarnish the victory, paquiao won that fair and square. i dont think oscar is as shot as people think he is(watched the fight 3 times), pacman was just 'perfect' tonight imo. south paw + speed(nacho said "you can not handle his speed" before stopping the fight) + peek + style + p4p = pacman tko8 for oscar


give credit to where its due"

pacquaio is 1 dimensional with that jab jab staright left, de la hoya would have counter and knocked pacuqaio out normally, or just rush him like he did mayweather, remember the mayweather fight was at 154 and de la hoya came in at 162 on fight night

pacquiao used to be a one dimensional fighter but not anymore, if you watch his fights, you would see that he gets better and better every match. you can see a exponentional growth from him after the diaz fight. i still believe he's getting better

golden left hand diminished after the damage he took from mayorga(shoulder cuff rotator) as you can see it's apparent from the forbes and mayweather fight. this is what freddy roach meant in his interviews

i believe what gave de la hoya trouble was pacman's speed,style(in/out*footwork* bob/weave*bodymovement*), and being a southpaw. all this together + the roach gameplan worked wonders, you can see oscar in the late rounds clearly could not answer it

i do think that a prime golden boy(left hand present) would still lost to 140-147 to pacman but anything heavier is a no

[Alibata]

Oscar had a great sweat on just before walking to the ring. A weight drained fighter does not sweat up well.

Listen to the expert xcaret.. He knows everything about boxing... What he says is the law... If he says DLH is winning, the expert has spoken and everyone else don't know nothing and should not oppose his views... His excuses are merely a reflection of his manhood. What was that he told me last.. Something along the lines of "If Pacquiao was a natural welterweight he could never beat this version of De La Hoya"... Pacquiao didn't just beat him, he whooped DLH via TKO and he was not a natrual welter.. But we are all ignorant and know nothing... The great boxing guru has tapped inside his expansive boxing brain and formulated his prediction by pure genius... Now his excuses are also ones based on sheer boxing intelligence... All bow down to Hector...Dino is just hater and a false boxing prophet stealing the lime light from Ferocity, Mayan Sun, and Hector; the 3 kings of boxing analysis....

[Benny Leonard]

but who believed freddie among the so-called boxing experts? a handful?
granted he was not in his prime but he is far being shot. pac made him look shot. odlh will make hatton run for his money imho. too bad hatton pussied first and fight malignaggi instead.

lol, now that pac had a major pwnage of odlh, he is suddenly shot.

Choice: Listen to so called "experts" or Freddie Roach who was a boxer and is one of the best trainers around...who also happened to train Oscar.

Think.

I don't think he was shot prior to the fight being made. What made him look terrible was the weight loss...which even Freddie points to as an additional reason. It's hard to predict what a fighter is going to show up as. Most I suspect thought he would make weight at 147 and then blow up 10-15 pounds...but he didn't do that; he was actually a Welterweight come fight time. He hadn't fought at 147 in about 7 years; that's a long time and it was used as an advantage for Pac to win. If they didn't need it or didn't think it would affect Oscar, they would have fought him at 154.

Think.


Over-training and the weight-loss kills a fighter...especially an older fighter like Oscar. We've seen this happen many times already and it serves a warning to all fighters as well as fans and the so called "experts" to NOW pay attention if they hadn't already to what to add to the possibilities that could go wrong.

Think.

Teddy Atlas called it prior to the fight...he used it as a possibility as well.


Seriously, don't buy into the expert crap. Think for yourself first...then listen to what is around you before making up your mind...and always be aware of the circumstances and possibilities...remember HISTORY.

Think.

Freddie was the one who worked with Oscar and say he could no longer pull the trigger. Didn't Freddie call Oscar shot after the fight?

Sometimes you can't tell until you get up close to someone; bullets are small.

Think.