Marquez deserves another Pac fight before Hatton!

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  • Ch@mpBox@PR
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    #11
    Originally posted by badboypeenoy
    Marquez won't get past Guzman, Valero would pummel him and Diaz would simply outwork him silly. I think he should start proving that he deserves his P4P status, he won't do that by beating old shot fighters like Casamayor. Just look at how Pacman isn't getting any credit for beating an old shot dela Hoya?
    Dude. Guzman is a disgrace. He had the chance to be a 3 belt holder at 135,that was his biggest fight, an he didnt make the weight. Thats being lazy and unprofessional. Valero have no credibility yet to fight a JMM type caliber fighter. He have KO 24 Tomato cans. And diaz would look the same way he looked against Campbell, if not worst. Manny is one of my favorites, but dont talk **** about JMM, just because he gave Manny hell. Dont be another hater!!!
    Last edited by Ch@mpBox@PR; 12-07-2008, 10:11 PM.

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    • Miburo
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      #12
      Unfortunately, Pacquiao seems to have moved beyond JMM permanently. That said, there don't appear to be many more big money names out there around his weight to fight.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #13
        Originally posted by RTS
        Marquez-Hatton?
        its too late for that... jmm can clean up 135 tho... I think that would be a mandate for the pac fight to happen.

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        • badboypeenoy
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          #14
          Originally posted by RTS
          Bold statements considering Guzman and Valero havent even tested the waters at 135 yet, Guzman couldnt even make 135.

          In my opinion, Marquez beats Valero and Diaz, and a fight vs Guzman would be very interesting and I would call it even.

          Marquez is a hell of a fighter
          Styles make fights. Why do you think Marquez is ducking these guys but is pushing for a fight with Pacquaio whom he knows matches up well with his style?

          Guzman got careless in conditioning, but his skills would match up well with Marquez at any weight. Valero is hungry and has KO power. Diaz is also hungry. He only got beaten by a fighter who matches up well with his style. Marquez' style is faaar from Nate Campbell's so I think Diaz would simply outwork and bully the naturally smaller Marquez. I'm not even considering Humberto Soto and Urbano Atillon here, but at 36, Marquez would be manhandled by these bigger guys.

          If Marquez wants a low-risk money-fight, a Marco-Antonio Barrera rematch at lightweight would be advisable. Barrera floored him in their first meeting, and JMM's win wasn't that decisive.

          Nate Campbell is a one-shot wonder. He loses to everyone in the list above including Juan Diaz if they are to have a rematch. Marquez could want to face him and be undisputed lighweight champ, it would be easy
          Last edited by badboypeenoy; 12-07-2008, 10:31 PM.

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          • Bobby0409
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            #15
            As good as Marquez is unfortunately he's not gonna get his chance until Pac is done with his "big" money fights. By then either if not both will not be the fighters they are today.

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            • Fearless BONG
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              #16
              JMM a great fighter?????

              Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
              Marquez wiil have to wait now. Manny aint fighting him for a while. Perhaps never. Manny can fight Hatton and PBF an retire. His legacy is that cemented. He doesnt need JMM for anything. Sorry to say because JMM is a great fighter!!!!!!
              Yeah let say JMM is a great, but that greatness seems vanish because Pacman let him kissssssssss the canvas many times.... LOL

              I dont think Pacman will fight again this crap because Pacman has nothing to gain anymore with JMM.... Pacman is no longer as the Pacman that JMM fight, Pacman is already a ATG Superstar. LOL

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              • ferocity
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                #17
                Originally posted by badboypeenoy
                Styles make fights. Why do you think Marquez is ducking these guys but is pushing for a fight with Pacquaio whom he knows matches up well with his style?

                Guzman got careless in conditioning, but his skills would match up well with Marquez at any weight. Valero is hungry and has KO power. Diaz is also hungry. He only got beaten by a fighter who matches up well with his style. Marquez' style is faaar from Nate Campbell's so I think Diaz would simply outwork and bully the naturally smaller Marquez. I'm not even considering Humberto Soto and Urbano Atillon here, but at 36, Marquez would be manhandled by these bigger guys.

                If Marquez wants a low-risk money-fight, a Marco-Antonio Barrera rematch at lightweight would be advisable. Barrera floored him in their first meeting, and JMM's win wasn't that decisive.

                Nate Campbell is a one-shot wonder. He loses to everyone in the list above including Juan Diaz if they are to have a rematch. Marquez could want to face him and be undisputed lighweight champ, it would be easy
                Don't worry we all know Pac wont fight these fighters and Marquez will have to fight them.

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by badboypeenoy
                  Styles make fights. Why do you think Marquez is ducking these guys but is pushing for a fight with Pacquaio whom he knows matches up well with his style?

                  Guzman got careless in conditioning, but his skills would match up well with Marquez at any weight. Valero is hungry and has KO power. Diaz is also hungry. He only got beaten by a fighter who matches up well with his style. Marquez' style is faaar from Nate Campbell's so I think Diaz would simply outwork and bully the naturally smaller Marquez. I'm not even considering Humberto Soto and Urbano Atillon here, but at 36, Marquez would be manhandled by these bigger guys.

                  If Marquez wants a low-risk money-fight, a Marco-Antonio Barrera rematch at lightweight would be advisable. Barrera floored him in their first meeting, and JMM's win wasn't that decisive.

                  Nate Campbell is a one-shot wonder. He loses to everyone in the list above including Juan Diaz if they are to have a rematch. Marquez could want to face him and be undisputed lighweight champ, it would be easy
                  I gotta admit that guzman is a tough fight for anyone, but he goes to the back of the line for ****in up w/ his weight...

                  Valero is a wild card, we won't know **** until he fights somebody... he should fight Rocky Juarez in texas.

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                  • Chups
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                    #19
                    Marquez should have fought Hatton. And what about the JMM-Juan Diaz talk?? Did he chicken out?

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                    • badboypeenoy
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ferocity
                      Don't worry we all know Pac wont fight these fighters and Marquez will have to fight them.
                      On the contrary, Pacman fighting Juan Diaz, Valero and even Victor Ortiz isn't that far off. I doubt it Pacman really means it when he said he is only fighting three more times before calling it quits and these guys depending on their 2009-2010 performance could prove to be draws themselves.

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