So what does Manny's Victory say about Juan Manuel Marquez?

[Da Hammer]

B!tch, Barrera was robbed.

Naw it was close but Marquez won that fight.

[My Name Is...]

Pac won both fights and this is coming from a guy who was rooting hard for Marquez both fights. Marquez had his chances but the fact is that he couldnt stay off the canvas enough to get the job done. thats the fact!

Yeah i will say that was his down fall.

What part of TX are you from??

[Da Hammer]

Yeah i will say that was his down fall.

What part of TX are you from??

i am from san antonio my good sir. why the question?

[Pullcounter]

I think that Manny winnig the fight solidified JMM as one of the elite.

He is the only one that really has a case on beating Pacman.

In reality he really won both fights with Pac. He belongs up there with Chavez, Morales, Ricardo Lopez, and MAB.

This makes JMM a GREAT fighter, IMO.

styles make fights... that's all it says... i doubt jmm can fight at 147 effectively

[Thoth]

The only real thing this fight proves about Marquez is that trainers will only take you so far.

You can throw in Nacho, Angelo, D'Amato, Arcel, hell you could even bring in Jack Blackburn and it won't mean a damn thing if the fighter doesn't have it.

So long Oscar and good riddance.

Edit: How the hell did I not include Eddie Futch? /shame

[My Name Is...]

i am from san antonio my good sir. why the question?

Just wondering, there are more than a few guys here from Houston.

[Kobayashi]

It say nothing, Marquez didn`t fight last night.

People seems to forget that for Pac-Marquez 2, Pacquiao was struggling to make the weight and the fight before too, again Barrera 2.

At 140lbs, Pacquaio will murder Marquez. Pac is still not at his prime yet, he's still improving after each fight.

[Da Hammer]

Just wondering, there are more than a few guys here from Houston.

i actually have a lot of family in houston. during some of the hurricanes the past couple years they have come n stayed with me to be safe.

[Sandro17]

Look at this dumbass. Pac cum guzzler.

Pac is good, but the fact of the matter is, JMM gave Pac his two hardest fights he ever had. FACT......

Pac should have lost both fights. You and I both know that.

I am not a Pac hater, just stating the facts.

FACT Manny beat Marquez WEIGHT DRAINED.

FACT Marquez only beats Manny via style matchup and even then couldn't do it.

FACT Marquez would never have done what Manny just did to DLH EVER. Marquez isn't fast enough. Marquez might counter his way to victory but thats it. And even then we won't know if Marquez would have been able to get in Oscars Jab...you'd need speed for that.

So IDK Manny seems to be greater than Marquez, it's just that Marquez has the right style and chose the right times to fight Manny.

[Undefeated]

Juan Manuel Marquez is a great fighter in my book. Like many said... You can argue about the two fights that he won, but in the books Manny won... Boxing fans think otherwise.