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  • Ch@mpBox@PR
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    #61
    Originally posted by warp1432
    Personally it already has an undisputed champ in Vazquez. Say what you want about the others, but Vazquez holds linealage and he has fought WAY better competition then either of them
    He maybe the top 122 pounder right now. But he is not the undisputed. To be undisputed you need all the belts. He may have fought better competition, but to be Undisputed you need to beat the other champs!!!!!!!!!!

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      #62
      Originally posted by KJB
      Well Khan was KOed in 1 round by an unknown, I dont expect Juanma to become another Khan.
      Vazquez is an absolute killer, if he isnt too badly damaged by his trilogy with Marquez I would hesitate putting any 122 pound fighter of mine in there with him. As for Marquez that guy has the kind of finesse skills that Juanma has never see before. Either fight at this point is very, very dangerous for him. Think Fernando Vargas.
      They Put fernando Vargas with good Competition early, like Winy and Quartey.An he won.The only mistake the made in his career was Trinidad. Who was a young primed, veteran Champion at the time he fought Vargas!!!!!

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        #63
        Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
        They Put fernando Vargas with good Competition early, like Winy and Quartey.An he won.The only mistake the made in his career was Trinidad. Who was a young primed, veteran Champion at the time he fought Vargas!!!!!
        Vargas-Trinidad, and Vargas-DLH were fights.
        Say what you want about Vargas, but that dude always tried to get up.
        He definitely gave me my money's worth back in the day.

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          #64
          Originally posted by jreckoning
          Vargas-Trinidad, and Vargas-DLH were fights.
          Say what you want about Vargas, but that dude always tried to get up.
          He definitely gave me my money's worth back in the day.
          Im not saying anything about Vargas. I just said that he was more than ready to face top guys at the time he did. The only thing was they rush him to Tito too fast and Tito was the best fighter around at that time. Tito was in his prime. And that is not the same situation as Lopez vs Vazquez if that fight happends. Read the other posts and you will see what Im trying to say!!!!!!!!!

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            #65
            Originally posted by warp1432
            Personally it already has an undisputed champ in Vazquez. Say what you want about the others, but Vazquez holds linealage and he has fought WAY better competition then either of them
            he's the linear champion but NOT the undisputed champion.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
              Juanma will fight a Mandatory in March, I hope is Gonzalez. So we can know how well prepared Juanma is for Vazquez!!!!!!
              Gonzalez isn't even rated by the WBO, how in the world will Gonzalez be Juanma's mandatory?

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                #67
                I'd like to see Vasquez take a mandatory or a tuneup before jumping in there with Juanma.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                  He maybe the top 122 pounder right now. But he is not the undisputed. To be undisputed you need all the belts. He may have fought better competition, but to be Undisputed you need to beat the other champs!!!!!!!!!!
                  No dude, Vasquez is the UNDISPUTED 122 king. You don't need all the damn paper titles, he has the Ring and the WBC and the best wins out of anyone else in that division. He is fully undisputed. No arguing that man!

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Slotff
                    No dude, Vasquez is the UNDISPUTED 122 king. You don't need all the damn paper titles, he has the Ring and the WBC and the best wins out of anyone else in that division. He is fully undisputed. No arguing that man!
                    He is not undisputed he lost once against a guy comming up in weight Marquez. and when you are undisputed is when is hard to make a case that none of the top contenders can beat you. I thats not the case. And you still need to have all the belts. because if you consider the ring as a belt you have to consider the others, The ring is in the same category with the other belts, the ring is not speacial!!!!!!!

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by badboypeenoy
                      Gonzalez isn't even rated by the WBO, how in the world will Gonzalez be Juanma's mandatory?
                      I ****ed on that one!!!!!!!!! Youy are right!!!!!!!!

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