Miguel Cotto vs. Paul Williams

[Mr. Fantastic]

they called a prime yory boy campas a bum because he lost to trinidad when he was 52-0-50ko's

Campas is a journeyman, not a bum though.

[BoriKua305]

In that case people with common sense would say Trinidad cheated with Vargas/DLH/Joppy..etc. Again, see how dumb that sounds?? You have every right to say what you feel, but you have no proof to back it up.

So if you went and stole something for the first time in your life and got caught...does it automatically make you a thief for all your past life??

theres a difference with an illegal substance found than your wraps being illegal they never found nothing in trinidads wraps just that his wraps where wrapped wrong on the other hand margarito had a substance in there that hardens theres a difference

[NAPO]

Actually 56-0-0(50Kos) and he was the favorite to win too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**** my bad, that was actually zarate's record when he fought gomez.

[NAPO]

Campas is a journeyman, not a bum though.

there you go a journeyman! you see?? hahahahahahaha

[Mr. Fantastic]

theres a difference with an illegal substance found than your wraps being illegal they never found nothing in trinidads wraps just that his wraps where wrapped wrong on the other hand margarito had a substance in there that hardens theres a difference

They never found anything but his hands were wrapped ILLEGALLY.

[Mr. Fantastic]

there you go a journeyman! you see?? hahahahahahaha

So you mean to tell me its as good as a victory than Vargas then??

[ShalafiV.2]

Come on man, you are defending and hyping a guy that was found with illegal, wet, pads in his wraps. I mean COME ON. I just can't believe this at all - he has no credibility left, let him go.

No, I am simply deflecting these false accusations that run rampant in these forums as if the joe blow posters here really knew exactly what transpired that night. Most of the people creating these accusations are bitter Cotto fans that want to believe what they want to believe.

You want to know what I think? here is my .2 cents...

I don't condone what happened on the 24th, I think it was a cheap attempt in Margarito's part and his camp to try and get an edge for the fight, I do however think this was all blown out of proportion by the media and by Mosley's camp. No evidence as of yet suggest that an illegal substance or "plaster of paris" was found on those wraps, they quickly assumed it was and when HBO reported this it just created a huge misconception about whatever was on those wraps which we have YET been able to find out. The evidence was not even presented in the trial, how the hell can they pass a verdict without actual proof?

I think Capetillo must have sensed something in Tony before the Mosley fight and during his camp that made him do something like that, knowing Mosley had a strong chin as well as his past usage of steroids made them feel it was fair game to do that? how the hell would I know? the point is it was wrong and I do not condone what happened.

As far as people saying Tony must have known what Capetillo puts on his hands it can be debatable, if in fact whatever Capetillo put on Tony's wraps was just an extra padding just like Papa Trinidad used to do with Felix then maybe Tony just thought it was a regular procedure just for extra protection on his hands and no real potential threat as something like plaster of paris that can easily be felt if someone where to place on your knuckles. If that was the scenario then Tony fully deserves his punishment.

Of course I will still support Tony, he's one of my favorite fighters who has always been exciting to watch and a guy with a solid background. I like his life story and will continue to support him in the future after this black cloud moves on, but unfortunately his name will always be tarnished by the nay sayers, but I could really care less.

[BoriKua305]

They never found anything but his hands were wrapped ILLEGALLY.

yea ok sure

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

So you mean to tell me its as good as a victory than Vargas then??

He was 56-0- with 50Kos and was the heavy faporite to beat Tito. if that is not a legit win then **** off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[THE REED]

No, I am simply deflecting these false accusations that run rampant in these forums as if the joe blow posters here really knew exactly what transpired that night. Most of the people creating these accusations are bitter Cotto fans that want to believe what they want to believe.

You want to know what I think? here is my .2 cents...

I don't condone what happened on the 24th, I think it was a cheap attempt in Margarito's part and his camp to try and get an edge for the fight, I do however think this was all blown out of proportion by the media and by Mosley's camp. No evidence as of yet suggest that an illegal substance or "plaster of paris" was found on those wraps, they quickly assumed it was and when HBO reported this it just created a huge misconception about whatever was on those wraps which we have YET been able to find out. The evidence was not even presented in the trial, how the hell can they pass a verdict without actual proof?

I think Capetillo must have sensed something in Tony before the Mosley fight and during his camp that made him do something like that, knowing Mosley had a strong chin as well as his past usage of steroids made them feel it was fair game to do that? how the hell would I know? the point is it was wrong and I do not condone what happened.

As far as people saying Tony must have known what Capetillo puts on his hands it can be debatable, if in fact whatever Capetillo put on Tony's wraps was just an extra padding just like Papa Trinidad used to do with Felix then maybe Tony just thought it was a regular procedure just for extra protection on his hands and no real potential threat as something like plaster of paris that can easily be felt if someone where to place on your knuckles. If that was the scenario then Tony fully deserves his punishment.

Of course I will still support Tony, he's one of my favorite fighters who has always been exciting to watch and a guy with a solid background. I like his life story and will continue to support him in the future after this black cloud moves on, but unfortunately his name will always be tarnished by the nay sayers, but I could really care less.

Are the naysayers, really the reason his name has been tarnished?

His trainer took full responsibility... if nothing was there, what did he take full responsibility of?