would Hamed only have been a domestic level or Euro level fighters if

[Dynamite Kid]

would Hamed only have been a domestic level or Euro level fighter if he did not have so much punching power ?Hamed's technique or lack of it got exposed when he stepped up in class imo and i dont buy all this he had reached his peak to soon or they tried to change his style etc, i believe when he stepped up in class away from the euro/domestic level competition that were not able to capatalise on his mistakes but he was getting hit flush by good fighters and instead of missing the punches by 1,2 inches like he was doing at Euro/domestic level they were landing

lets take look at some of Hamed's lackluster performances when he stepped up

Manuel Medina ,hit way too many times and looked very tired and disapointed in his performance power got Medina out of there in the end

Kevin Kelly [hit way too many times and put down more than once and was getting tagged time and again]

Paul Ingle [became completely disorganised in the latter stages untill his power bailed him out AGAIN]

Augie Sanchez [getting tagged with good punches showing a leaky defence yet the power bailed him out again]

Tom Johnson [leaky defence got tagged nuff times yet again the power bailed him out]

Cesar Soto [awful display from Hamed lots of holding no clean action what so ever ]

Wayne McCullough[very lackluster performance he did more dancing than punching ]

Daniel Alicea [dropped for the first time ]


Marco Antonio Barrera[completely and utterly outboxed ]


im a big Hamed fan cause he was helluva entertaining fighter to watch but you cant help but think without that power would he have been just another euro/domestic level fighters,i actually think Herol Graham was a far better technician than Hamed allthough Graham got KTFO a couple of times,the difference for me was that Graham was around in a very strong era and had to face one of the best fighters of his era Mike McCallum and it was still a war that was a close fight his other title shot was against probably the hardest hitting MW in Boxing history and his last shot was against Brewer but Graham was past of by then, if Graham had had the punching power of Hamed maybe he would of gone as far as Naz or further

[ATFsven]

if he didnt have the power he would have been a completely different boxer. he would have not had the power to back up the hands down reflex style, he would have had to be more orthodox but would still have had the speed and he would still have been champ in my opinion.

[Dynamite Kid]

if he didnt have the power he would have been a completely different boxer. he would have not had the power to back up the hands down reflex style, he would have had to be more orthodox but would still have had the speed and he would still have been champ in my opinion.

Herol Graham was not a puncher and he did not have an orthodox style and he invented that style

[B.A. Sherif]

End of the day although I don't agree with you, his power won him the fights by KO.
You can't go around saying if this and if taht about peoples styles.
Like if I said: What if Calzaghe had a crappy work rate or no stamina. Would he have made it out of Wales?
Or if Jones didn't have power, would he have dominated fights so much?
You can say it about any one.
Hamed had the ability and awkward style to either out point or TKO the fighters he faced in his career.
I think your ignorant for saying you "dont buy all this he had reached his peak to soon or they tried to change his style". The fact of the matter is that this is the case. Until you get that then your living in ignorance.

[B.A. Sherif]

Oh yeh and about getting hit too often in some fights.
Take 99% of the southern american fighters; theyre styles revolve around hit and getting hit with a minimum of dodging.
Don't fault him for that man.

[Dynamite Kid]

End of the day although I don't agree with you, his power won him the fights by KO.
You can't go around saying if this and if taht about peoples styles.
Like if I said: What if Calzaghe had a crappy work rate or no stamina. Would he have made it out of Wales?
Or if Jones didn't have power, would he have dominated fights so much?
You can say it about any one.
Hamed had the ability and awkward style to either out point or TKO the fighters he faced in his career.
I think your ignorant for saying you "dont buy all this he had reached his peak to soon or they tried to change his style". The fact of the matter is that this is the case. Until you get that then your living in ignorance.

i think you are nuthugger if you think him peaking to soon is why he was getting hit more against good fighters

[Mugwump]

Take away the greatest attribute of any sportsman and he will struggle.

Silly question.

[Dynamite Kid]

Take away the greatest attribute of any sportsman and he will struggle.

Silly question.

that is where your poor Boxing knowledge surfaces

its not a silly question because taking away his greatest asset is a way of understanding how great,versatile he is or how one dimmensional he is and that one dimmension was why he got his head Boxed off by MAB all he had in his locker to beat MAB was power and that is why he lost

[Mugwump]

that is where your poor Boxing knowledge surfaces

Yeah, okay Bert Sugar.

its not a silly question because taking away his greatest asset is a way of understanding how great,versatile he is or how one dimmensional he is and that one dimmension was why he got his head Boxed off by MAB all he had in his locker to beat MAB was power and that is why he lost

Hamed lost to MAB for a number of reasons - one of which being MAB executing a perfect tactical plan perfectly. He certainly was not beaten because he was a one-dimensional ****er only. Suffice to say that the Hamed who tore the highly-respected Steve Robinson apart years earlier with a combination of speed, accuracy, unorthodox hitting AND power bore little resemblance to that agricultural slugger.

[B.A. Sherif]

i think you are nuthugger

I'm no nuthugger my friend.
I just love to voice my honest (non biased) opinion against people who are completely oblivious to very obvious statements. Like the one you shot down in your first post:

i dont buy all this he had reached his peak to soon or they tried to change his style

The fact is that he left his long time trainer to go to Manny Stuart (among other guys) and their game plan was to change him; to get him to throw more combinations. The thing they left out was he still needed to keep that very elusive style he had. Thats why he was getting hit more. He should have stuck with what worked for him for so many years (the Ingles)