is chad dawson that good?

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  • IMDAZED
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    #21
    Originally posted by Tunney
    Calzaghe is old himself, Dawson is young.

    Hopkins > Tarver

    Jones > Johnson.
    Jones greater than Johnson all-time. But Calzaghe's win over Jones is not better than Dawson's win over Johnson, sorry. Not when Johnson CRUSHED Jones years before Calzaghe beat him via decision.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Tunney
      Calzaghe is old himself, Dawson is young.

      Hopkins > Tarver

      Jones > Johnson.
      This version of Jones would get crushed again by Johnson, though I had Glen winning the Dawson fight 7-5, so it's a mute point. Adamek is about equal to Kessler, so Calzaghe has the edge even before you get to his other 20 or so defenses.

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        #23
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        I think that sums it up. He's a damn good fighter but Im not completely won over yet. But at least he wants to prove he's the best. And so far he's proven to be at or near the top of a pretty decent division. Well see how good he is if Hops or Joe decide to face him.
        We need new faces, It would great for the sport if he becomes a success. It's time for the old lions to return to their pride.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
          This version of Jones would get crushed again by Johnson, though I had Glen winning the Dawson fight 7-5, so it's a mute point. Adamek is about equal to Kessler, so Calzaghe has the edge even before you get to his other 20 or so defenses.
          I had Dawson beating Johnson. And Adamek is not "about equal" with Kessler. Nice try.

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            #25
            if johnson can beat dawson, then i think dawson is not champion material
            imagine what a prime johnson or hopkins would do to dawson...

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              #26
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              I had Dawson beating Johnson. And Adamek is not "about equal" with Kessler. Nice try.
              You're right, the Kessler win was better.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
                You're right, the Kessler win was better.
                Wow, I didn't expect that answer!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Wow, I didn't expect that answer!
                  Adamek has had a good win or two since the Dawson fight, since he moved up in weight and isn't drained anymore. But explain to me who he beat prior to fighting Chad en route to winning a vacant title and defending it twice. Kessler at least won two titles, neither of them vacant, and defended the first 4 times. How you could conclude that the Adamek win was not only better, but substantially better, is beyond me.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
                    Adamek has had a good win or two since the Dawson fight, since he moved up in weight and isn't drained anymore. But explain to me who he beat prior to fighting Chad en route to winning a vacant title and defending it twice. Kessler at least won two titles, neither of them vacant, and defended the first 4 times. How you could conclude that the Adamek win was not only better, but substantially better, is beyond me.
                    Umm..just because he beat O'Neil Bell - a former cruiser champ and one of the five best cruisers in the world - AFTER Dawson doesn't mean it doesn't count. Weight drained my a**. When did he tell you that? PLUS, Adamek's victory over Ulrich pretty much equals Kessler's career.

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                      #30
                      very good..best lhw

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