Hattons Resume.

[i box apples]

Tszyu/Mitchell 1 may not have been the most exciting fight, but before the stoppage, i had Tszyu winning by 2 rounds including the deduction.

Before the Tszyu fight, i knew the fight was going to be tough, but i believed Hatton would actually win, when looking at both fighters situations, with one coming to the end of a career, and one coming into a career. Both had similar styles with Hatton being the younger, fresher fighter.

hatton fought kostya after tszyu/mitchell 2 not 1.

kostya blew out mitchell in the 2nd fight.

everyone was worried about kostya's inactivity and ring rust before the the 2nd mitchell fight. when he blew mitchell , out all the questions about ring rust went away.

you guys have funny memories. i don't remember thinking kostya was done or gonna be in trouble against hatton. i thought hatton might give him a tough fight but kostya was certainly favored.

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hatton fought kostya after tszyu/mitchell 2 not 1.

kostya blew out mitchell in the 2nd fight.

everyone was worried about kostya's inactivity and ring rust before the the 2nd mitchell fight. when he blew mitchell out all the questions about ring rust went away.

you guys have funny memories. i don't remember thinking kostya was done or gonna be in trouble against hatton. i thiought hatton might give him a tough fight but kostya was certainly favored.

True story. Nicely put.

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Clearly Kostya's Performance against Mitchell proved he was far from being washed up.. He himself said several times before the Hatton fight that he felt in the best shape of his life.. and as proof that he was beating old personal training records.. His Performance against Hatton also proved he was still a Top fighter.. I for one think.. Hatton was allowed to get away with murder.. and still wonder if things would have been different if Jay Nady or Joe Cortez
were reffing, as opposed to VERY PRO BRITISH Dave Paris.. To whom Hatton actually winked at, at one point during the fight.. right after committing one of his many fouls..

I for one.. had seen 5 Hatton fights before the Tszyu fight(I lived in Leciester for 6 years until this June) And I picked Tzsyu to win along with just about everyone not named Hatton..

You are correct that styles make fights.. and that Tszyu's performance against Mitchell means nothing in relation to Mayweather's performance against Mitchell.. But it's still a decent gauge of How proficient Kostya still was the time of the Hatton fight..

I am pretty sure a Champ is a Champ is a fool proof argument.. It's fact.. every argument against it is opinion.. opinions are great.. and I welcome them.. But they have no Power VS the facts.. The fact is.. Hatton defeated Champs.. and there is nothing average about that..

That is all .. carry on ..

Oh you lived in Leicester. No wonder why you moved back to Canada. (joke)

If you read my posts properly, then you would see that i give full credit to Hatton for beating Tszyu, who in an earlier poster, i stated was still a good fighter, just not prime. That is all on Tszyu. A great name to have on a resume.

As this thread is about Hattons resume, Maussa and Urango are not great names to state when mentioning the pro's. Yes, they were champions, but they do little to his resume to look more impressive.

The noteworthy opponents i give Hatton credit for fighting are Tszyu, Collazo (moved up in weight), Malignaggi and the loss to Mayweather. All were either prime or still formidable opponents at the time he faced them.

The name Castillo is impressive to have on his resume, but it's the same as Calzaghe having RJJ on his. Facing a man a shadow of his former self is nothing to brag about if you beat them.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What are you saying?

Yes, I'm aware of champs but, unlike some narrow people on this site, I'm more considered with the fighter not his hardware. Fighters make the belt, not vice versa.

True but the only thing you can really ask for is for a fighter to beat the people around him. Urango and Maussa were world champions in Hatton's division and he took care of them.

He fought a genuine world champion in his first fight at Welterweight - something his more decorated peers, Cotto and Floyd - didnt do.

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What are you saying?

Yes, I'm aware of champs but, unlike some narrow people on this site, I'm more considered with the fighter not his hardware. Fighters make the belt, not vice versa.

Agreed....

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True but the only thing you can really ask for is for a fighter to beat the people around him. Urango and Maussa were world champions in Hatton's division and he took care of them.

Yeah you can only beat the people around you but that doesn't mean those people are suddenly good. Urango and Maussa are still mediocre. End of story.

He fought a genuine world champion in his first fight at Welterweight - something his more decorated peers, Cotto and Floyd - didnt do.

Good for him but that doesn't make his resume better than Cotto or Floyd's and seriously...who cares? It was Louis Collazo, not Antonio Margarito.

Again, the clever people try to focus on titles, etc but the smart ones look a little deeper. AGAIN, the fighter makes the belt, not vice versa.

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hatton fought kostya after tszyu/mitchell 2 not 1.

kostya blew out mitchell in the 2nd fight.

everyone was worried about kostya's inactivity and ring rust before the the 2nd mitchell fight. when he blew mitchell , out all the questions about ring rust went away.

you guys have funny memories. i don't remember thinking kostya was done or gonna be in trouble against hatton. i thought hatton might give him a tough fight but kostya was certainly favored.

I know Hatton fought Tszyu after Tszyu/Mitchell 2. But in England, there was a buzz surrounding Hatton that was favouring him to win. Many writers were stating Tszyu was still a formidable force at 140, but Hatton was in his break-through fight which me and many others was predicting him to win. The build-up was immense and is still fresh in the memory.

[K-Yo]

Hatton's resume is the reason that I rate him higher then Calzaghe. Calzaghe said in his autobiography that Jones was washed up yet two years later he is fighting him. His best wins were a split decision against a 43 year old Hopkins and against Kessler who is a European proven fighter. Not to mention that he campaigned at super middle which has been pretty non existent for some time. Hatton campaigned at one of boxings hottest divisions and only has 1 defeat, and that coming from someone who will go down as a great and who was p4p champion at the time of their bout.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yeah you can only beat the people around you but that doesn't mean those people are suddenly good. Urango and Maussa are still mediocre. End of story.


Good for him but that doesn't make his resume better than Cotto or Floyd's and seriously...who cares? It was Louis Collazo, not Antonio Margarito.

Again, the clever people try to focus on titles, etc but the smart ones look a little deeper. AGAIN, the fighter makes the belt, not vice versa.

Good enough to win world titles.

The point is that Hatton has predominantly looked to fight the best - world champions, P4P fighters or his closest rivals.

I wish everyone had the same attitude.

[The Gully Gad]

I know Hatton fought Tszyu after Tszyu/Mitchell 2. But in England, there was a buzz surrounding Hatton that was favouring him to win. Many writers were stating Tszyu was still a formidable force at 140, but Hatton was in his break-through fight which me and many others was predicting him to win. The build-up was immense and is still fresh in the memory.

And mine...
Kostya is and was back then one of my favourite fighters
He looked at his best in the 2nd mitchell fight completley dismantled Mitchell and i expected him to come to the UK and beat the whiteness of Hatton..