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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #11
    Originally posted by tredh
    Not completely true people talked about Kostya's long lay off and plenty of people were talking about how Castillo was shot or at least way past his best days all before Hatton won those fights.
    Who?

    Hatton was given about as much chance against Tsyzu as Lockett was against Pavlik.

    Tszyu had a lay off then brutally smashed Mitchell - who was his no1 contender - 6 months before the Hatton fight.

    Who said Castillo was shot? He was ranked by the Ring in the P4P list. Many were expecting a toe-to-toe FOTY brawl.

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    • black.ink
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      #12
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Im not talking about how the fights went. But just the fact that Hatton took fights against 3 P4Pers and 4 World Champions in 8 fights is impressive.

      No one was talking about how shot each fighter was until after Ricky beat them.
      I'm pretty sure Floyd was the only p4p'er Hatton fought at the time. Although i'm not too sure on Tszyu. Castillo was also not p4p before Hatton fought him.

      Some writers were stating Tszyu was past it before the fight. Internet forums are not a good source for opinions, especially after a fight.

      Also, i had never even heard of Maussa until Hatton fought him.

      I do give credit for Hatton beating Malignaggi and Tszyu. Although a prime Tszyu would have been much more competitive.

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      • tredh
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        #13
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        Who?

        Hatton was given about as much chance against Tsyzu as Lockett was against Pavlik.

        Tszyu had a lay off then brutally smashed Mitchell - who was his no1 contender - 6 months before the Hatton fight.

        Who said Castillo was shot? He was ranked by the Ring in the P4P list. Many were expecting a toe-to-toe FOTY brawl.
        Saying people mentioned Tsyzu's lay off and things is not saying he wasn't a ovrwhelming favorite. Plenty of realistic people spoke about Castillo's condition. I give Hatton all the credit for beating Tsyzu but Castillo is horse of a different color.

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        • hammerhiem
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          #14
          I never saw a single person with any reputation in boxing circles say Hatton had more than a punchers chance of beating tszyu.

          His 2nd Mitchell win was seen as the second coming, go read some of the comments on those youtube clips from before the fight, 90%+ thought hatton was getting ktfo including me.

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          • Pullcounter
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            #15
            Originally posted by hammerhiem
            I never saw a single person with any reputation in boxing circles say Hatton had more than a punchers chance of beating tszyu.

            His 2nd Mitchell win was seen as the second coming, go read some of the comments on those youtube clips from before the fight, 90%+ thought hatton was getting ktfo including me.
            yeah, tszyu was p4p #3 and unified and undisputed 140 lbs champ when hatton fought him. I also did not give hatton a chance to beat tszyu, which is why I give hatton full credit for that fight.

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            • The Gully Gad
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              #16
              For me Hatton has only started fighting decent fighters since Tsyzu well
              fighting fighters that are known anyway..
              The rest of his career is against padded old bull**** hasbeens

              Its a shame the british fighters wait so late to make an impression
              on the american fighters only fighting them at the tail end of there careers

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              • mellow_mood
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                #17
                Originally posted by tredh
                Saying people mentioned Tsyzu's lay off and things is not saying he wasn't a ovrwhelming favorite. Plenty of realistic people spoke about Castillo's condition. I give Hatton all the credit for beating Tsyzu but Castillo is horse of a different color.
                i was going to say the same thing....

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                • Welter_Skelter
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by black.ink
                  It's a good resume no doubt, and losing to Floyd is in no way shameful.

                  BUT, it's not as convincing is you make it out to be.

                  Kostya came off a long lay off, was still a good fighter, but not prime.

                  Maussa and Urango were average champs.

                  Collazo had Hatton in trouble clearly stating Welter is no place for him. Some actually had Collazo win.

                  Castillo was clearly not the fighter he once was, also fighting above his best weight. Side note - Castillo has a very impressive resume.

                  Lazcano was past prime, yet a prime Lazcano was never anything special, but for a tune up, it was competetive at times.

                  However, Paulie was a great win, and the only man at 140 that mattered for Hatton. A fight now with the DLH - Pac fight for a payday is well deserved.
                  Kostya had just finshed pummeling a top 10 guy in 3 rounds.. The same guy that P4P number 1 took much longer to dispose of.. Pretty weak reasoning by you

                  What is an "Average Champ"???? A champ is a champ... A champ had to get there by beating a Champ or top contender... and "average champ" is an Oxymoron.. People become champs by being above Average..

                  Hatton Clearly won 8-9 rounds of the Collazo Fight.. he also scored the only KNock down of the fight.. Yes he got rocked in the 12th round.. But 1 round does not make a fight.. This excuse is getting old.. and it's significance somewhat overblown.. Hitting the post does not count on the scoreboard.. and neither does ALMOST knocking someone down.. Almost doesn't count in Boxing

                  That is all .. You may Carry on..

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                  • hammerhiem
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                    #19
                    Its a shame the british fighters wait so late to make an impression
                    on the american fighters only fighting them at the tail end of there careers
                    I think 27 is the right age to be moving into world level, before that you should be fighting bums -> journeymen -> minor title holders -> failed big titlists

                    That way you find out their lvl and you don't get people like lacy who if they had held him at the right level long enough could have been a damn site better.

                    thats the way they used to do it in the days when you had lots of good fighters in all the divisions.

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                    • Dirk Diggler UK
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The Gully Gad
                      For me Hatton has only started fighting decent fighters since Tsyzu well
                      fighting fighters that are known anyway..
                      The rest of his career is against padded old bull**** hasbeens

                      Its a shame the british fighters wait so late to make an impression
                      on the american fighters only fighting them at the tail end of there careers
                      Two words

                      Frank Warren

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