Anthony Mundine: "Sakio Bika Would Be Easy Work"

[Dan...]

Bika would knock his ass out. I hope this fight actually happens and Mundine isnt going to talk and run, like he usually does.

at least Mundine is bad mouthing someone his size, instead of insulting Jeff Fenech or Lovemore Ndou...

Irish I'm not sure how aware of Mundine you are but I can assure you he would have enough skill to get past Bika.

He may be a cowardly scumbag and the single biggest factor associated with the decline of the sport in this country but when it comes down to it he actually has some pretty reasonable skills. Bika is in the Danny Green mould, a tough, powerful guy. The difference is Bika is even less skillful than Green, and Mundine barely lost a round against Green.

Mundine would win this fight by a near shut-out, it honestly wouldn't even be close.

[Steak]

Irish I'm not sure how aware of Mundine you are but I can assure you he would have enough skill to get past Bika.

He may be a cowardly scumbag and the single biggest factor associated with the decline of the sport in this country but when it comes down to it he actually has some pretty reasonable skills. Bika is in the Danny Green mould, a tough, powerful guy. The difference is Bika is even less skillful than Green, and Mundine barely lost a round against Green.

Mundine would win this fight by a near shut-out, it honestly wouldn't even be close.

Mundine is probebly one of the very few fighters Im biased against, so you might be right.

But I do think Bika is a better fighter than Green. do you think Green could have given Calzaghe the trouble that Bika gave him? and Bika was well on his way to beating Beyer before the clash of heads stoppage, so he should have been an alphabet belt champ at one time.
Bika is more intense and hits harder. not to mention is a lot more dirty and a rougher fighter.

[Dan...]

Mundine is probebly one of the very few fighters Im biased against, so you might be right.

But I do think Bika is a better fighter than Green. do you think Green could have given Calzaghe the trouble that Bika gave him? and Bika was well on his way to beating Beyer before the clash of heads stoppage, so he should have been an alphabet belt champ at one time.
Bika is more intense and hits harder. not to mention is a lot more dirty and a rougher fighter.

I highly doubt that Bika is a better fighter than Green tbh. Remember that Danny Green was absolutely robbed in Germany against Beyer. He had dropped Beyer several times and opened up two massive cuts from clean punches before the referee DQ'd Green for an intentional butt which he said caused the cut - video evidence proves this to be false. Beyer was in truth a very ordinary and over-protected fighter.

Calzaghe had an absolutely horrible night against Bika and Sakio's dirty and spoiling tactics got to him a little - I wouldn't use that fight as any kind of measuring stick.

I am well aware that triangle theories do not work but remember that Bika dropped a fight to Soliman - a man Mundine has defeated three times.

Bika just isn't very good. He is a tough guy and a pretty strong pressure fighter, but he is significantly lacking in skills. Mundine would fight the fight in a very similar fashion to his confrontations with Green and Echols. HE would simply stay on the outside and use his hand and foot speed to effectively take Sakio out of the fight.

[Steak]

I highly doubt that Bika is a better fighter than Green tbh. Remember that Danny Green was absolutely robbed in Germany against Beyer. He had dropped Beyer several times and opened up two massive cuts from clean punches before the referee DQ'd Green for an intentional butt which he said caused the cut - video evidence proves this to be false. Beyer was in truth a very ordinary and over-protected fighter.

Calzaghe had an absolutely horrible night against Bika and Sakio's dirty and spoiling tactics got to him a little - I wouldn't use that fight as any kind of measuring stick.

I am well aware that triangle theories do not work but remember that Bika dropped a fight to Soliman - a man Mundine has defeated three times.

Bika just isn't very good. He is a tough guy and a pretty strong pressure fighter, but he is significantly lacking in skills. Mundine would fight the fight in a very similar fashion to his confrontations with Green and Echols. HE would simply stay on the outside and use his hand and foot speed to effectively take Sakio out of the fight.

that doesnt change the fact that Green lost the rematch to Beyer, and that was not controversial from what Ive read and seen. Beyer a protected fighter? sure. but hes still pretty much the best fighter that Green ever faced.

Calzaghe actually didnt have a bad night against Bika, and was looking excellent in the beginning rounds. he only started having a 'bad night' when he got cut and started getting roughed around by Bika. a lot of that was illegal or semi-illegal, but thats what Bika brings in the ring with him. that kind of stuff does matter in a fight.

and Bika only lost to Soliman way early in his career, and from what Ive read Mundine's first win over Soliman was controversial anyway. Ive even heard that Mundine's latest win over Soliman was slightly controversial. so that doesnt really count.

Ive seen Mundine fight, and hes not a superskilled boxer. hes someone who relies on his athleticism a lot of the time and ends up carrying his guard down a lot of the time. Bika, with his strength and rough tactics, would fight much more aggressively than Green did.

[BennyST]

Did I seriously just read that he is looking to go after guys like Geale, Bika and the lower contenders on the world level? Then goes on to say that no middleweight can beat him? That just goes to show that he won't be fighting a single highly rated fighter in the next year or two, by which time his career will have come to a standstill.

Mundine is such a ****ing ******ed prick! I don't usually get angry about fighters fighting who they do, but Mundine really is one of the big jokes of the sport. It's a cliche that he never fights anyone decent, but it's really a very damn true cliche.

How can he keep getting away with this crap? Why doesn't someone start doing something in terms of taking his lousy belt off him, because he hasn't fought one top rated fighter in years. Does he think fighting Bika is some kind of big step or something? Honestly, while Bika is a decent, tough fighter he has never done anything or beaten anyone noteworthy. This is someone to go after for a fighter with a world title that is supposedly looking for only the big fights? I thought he was going down to middleweight for one reason and one reason only, and that is to get the big fights with the big names? Why bother moving back up to a division you just left to fight another lower rated contender? It doesn't make any sense. His last fight was supposedly a tune up fight to get him the big names from the middleweight division. It was meant to be a smaller fight while they get one of the big names of that division, someone that actually has a world title, to fight him. This guy is just beyond words....

I really hope someone from the Mundine camp reads these things and starts to ****ing well act. It's pathetic. If he never going to actually fight anyone even slightly half decent, why bother ever talking about fighting for a title or going after the big names? It just makes him look like a complete ****. If he never said anything about fighting the big names, it wouldn't look so bad, but he constantly goes on about it. There main marketing tool over here lately has been on the lines of *to be said in a deep TV presenter-like voice* "Many people have said that his opponents have not been good enough. Well, that stops now! Mundine is going for the big names only!", and of course this was for the latest fight against that hack that had never done a damn thing. ****** bastard.

[Dan...]

that doesnt change the fact that Green lost the rematch to Beyer, and that was not controversial from what Ive read and seen. Beyer a protected fighter? sure. but hes still pretty much the best fighter that Green ever faced.

Calzaghe actually didnt have a bad night against Bika, and was looking excellent in the beginning rounds. he only started having a 'bad night' when he got cut and started getting roughed around by Bika. a lot of that was illegal or semi-illegal, but thats what Bika brings in the ring with him. that kind of stuff does matter in a fight.

and Bika only lost to Soliman way early in his career, and from what Ive read Mundine's first win over Soliman was controversial anyway. Ive even heard that Mundine's latest win over Soliman was slightly controversial. so that doesnt really count.

Ive seen Mundine fight, and hes not a superskilled boxer. hes someone who relies on his athleticism a lot of the time and ends up carrying his guard down a lot of the time. Bika, with his strength and rough tactics, would fight much more aggressively than Green did.

These are good points Irish. A couple of things though don't believe everything you read about Australian boxing. The first Mundine-Soliman fight should not have been controversial. Mundine racked up the points early in the fight and Soliman had a good last couple of rounds. It was one of those fights where people only remember the last third of the fight. Also, the third Soliman fight was not at all controversial. Soliman's trainer had a whinge but in truth it wasn't really close.

I am not making Mundine out to be a superskilled boxer by the way, he isn't. He is an athletically gifted guy with some reasonable skills and very good foot and hand speed. He is just a bad matchup for Bika. His movement would make it too difficult for Bika to get into the type of fight he needs to in order to win and Mundine would just pile up the points on the outside and get it done.

The second Green-Beyer fight wasn't overly controversial, you're right, Beyer won that clearly.

Still, I rate both Echols and Green over Bika - its amazing how overrated a fighter can get with a little US exposure IMO.

[phallus]

I highly doubt that Bika is a better fighter than Green tbh. Remember that Danny Green was absolutely robbed in Germany against Beyer. He had dropped Beyer several times and opened up two massive cuts from clean punches before the referee DQ'd Green for an intentional butt which he said caused the cut - video evidence proves this to be false. Beyer was in truth a very ordinary and over-protected fighter.

Calzaghe had an absolutely horrible night against Bika and Sakio's dirty and spoiling tactics got to him a little - I wouldn't use that fight as any kind of measuring stick.

I am well aware that triangle theories do not work but remember that Bika dropped a fight to Soliman - a man Mundine has defeated three times.

Bika just isn't very good. He is a tough guy and a pretty strong pressure fighter, but he is significantly lacking in skills. Mundine would fight the fight in a very similar fashion to his confrontations with Green and Echols. HE would simply stay on the outside and use his hand and foot speed to effectively take Sakio out of the fight.

bika was robbed by the judges in his fight with soliman

[Mayfeather]

Theres no doubt about it that Bika is a tough son of a gun but I think Mundine would own him in the ring due to his style

[Dan...]

Theres no doubt about it that Bika is a tough son of a gun but I think Mundine would own him in the ring due to his style

Yeah, it is an absolutely horrible style matchup for Bika. He needs a certain kind of fight to be effective and Mundine would not supply it to him.

[Dan...]

bika was robbed by the judges in his fight with soliman

Really? Interesting, I had not heard this before. I know the fight was close but I don't think i have ever heard anyone refer to it as a robbery.