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  • freedom213
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    #1

    Sound off on the Margarito vs Molsey!

    I just wanna know, is the consensus on NSB that Mosley doesnt have the goods anymore to beat Tony? Why? please provide some facts if you state an opinion.
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    #2
    He looked terrible against Mayorga. He is too old.

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    • freedom213
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      #3
      Originally posted by brently1979
      He looked terrible against Mayorga. He is too old.
      He did look rather sloppy but I'll give him a pass only because maybe it was very hard to get up for that fight, but I'll give him credit for finishing in style and showing some power.

      Mosley should be ready for this fight he has stayed active for him and as long as he and Nazeem gel I can see him doing very well in this fight. He needs to get back to boxing smart.

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        #4
        Originally posted by freedom213
        I just wanna know, is the consensus on NSB that Mosley doesnt have the goods anymore to beat Tony? Why? please provide some facts if you state an opinion.
        Mosley, as most older fighters do, has to pick his spots more and conserve energy. Look at how much more he clinches now, such as the Cotto and Mayorga bouts, as opposed to his younger days (he did clinch a lot when he was only 30-31 against Forrest in the rematch, but besides that). You see it with older fighters, they can do some of the brilliant things of their youth in spots, but not with as much consistency. That's going to be very hard to do against a tough guy with the insane stamina and workate of Margarito. That's why I have said that it might be in Mosley's best interest to "stink it out" against Tony. Use his faster hands to beat Tony to the punch, and clinch. Mosley is pretty strong and should handle himself fairly well in the clinch.

        Margarito walked through some hard shots of perhaps the biggest puncher in the WW division in Cintron, so it's difficult to picture his shots really discouraging or hurting Tony. It's going to take a lot of shots to do that to Margarito. As shown against Cotto, Margarito can be pretty effective at defending a good body attack, which Shane has.

        Margarito was troubled by the insane workrate of Williams (a very tall guy who has a wingspan longer than most HW champs in history). He was also outboxed by Cotto for the first few rounds. But Mosley doesn't have the workrate and size of Williams, and not as technically sound a boxer as Cotto. Mosley's always been more of a speedy slugger than a technical boxer, with immense physical gifts. However, that might not be too bad of a thing in this case. I think Mosley has to have a good mix of boxing and brawling in this bout, along with the holding tactics I mentioned earlier.

        I won't totally count out Mosley's chances. I give him more of a chance at winning, than say, I did Roy against Joe, Tito against Roy, or Ibragimov against Wlad. But I'll be very shocked if he wins. He fights too much in spurts, not especially hard to hit (he's always left himself open, but older age and slower reflexes makes him even less hard to catch), and up against a fighter with insane stamina, toughness, and workrate. People like to downgrade Tony and look at him as some skill-less brawler, but it's not quite that simple. There's some really good things he does in there. He throws shots from all sorts of angles. He has a good variety of shots. He's pretty heavy-handed, even if he's not a big one-shot guy, his punches tend to have a damaging effect. As said before, he did a good job of defending Cotto's body attack (or countering upstairs when Cotto did go to the body).

        In short, he's too much for a 2008-09 version of Mosley. I don't even think a 2000-01 Mosley would have an easy time with Tony, although I'd make him the favorite. Mosley still has enough to beat a deal of pretty good fighters around his size range, maybe the WBC champ Andre Berto. But not guys like Margarito or Cotto.

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          Mosley didn't look very good against Mayorga but that could be due to ring rust and Mayorga's tactics which was to punch and hold, it would have made anyone look bad plus maybe Mosley peaked too early because of his fight with Judah that was cancelled, maybe he had reached his peak for that date, although it might not be likely because Mosley had 3 months to prepare for Mayorga.

          Anyways, I think Margarito will win but I wouldn't count Mosley out because as he says, he knows how to deal with Margarito's style, all those sparring with the Mexican fighters in LA will help him, and his style will give Margarito problems.

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