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  • #31
    Originally posted by mrlopez View Post
    BIG Margarito fan here...

    & Hell yeah i want to see a Williams rematch.......
    I wanted to see it 2 years ago....

    If I was his Promoter I'd have Margarito do 3 or 4 fights next year....

    Mosely in January

    Cotto in June (PR Day Parade Weekend in MSG)

    PWill in September (Mex Ind Day Weekend in LA)

    Move up to 154 and fight Santos in December........

    Out of all the fights i mentioned, i really want to see the PWill fight....been dying to see if he was just off that night OR if PWill has his #
    As a promotor, I wouldnt want to see him fight Santos cuz he's lost and interest wouldnt be there. If anything i'd make Santos drop to 147 to fight Tony. But A P Will fight so close after a Cotto fight is a bad move, I would make that a October November fight depending on the scars

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    • #32
      Originally posted by mangler View Post
      Cotto can't beat Marg. He will lose again and lose worse than the 1st time.

      Hell yea, all fans should want Marg-Pwill 2.

      Williams would break PBF off sumthin. he's the only cat at 147 I'd favor over PBF.

      Nothin wrong wit Pwill fightin Verno since he couldn't get no one else at the moment. I ain't screamin for Pwill-CQ 3, but I wouldn't be against it.

      Damn good thread Dice.
      Thanks, I try, I figured lets talk about something more constructive then just hate

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Dice View Post
        As a promotor, I wouldnt want to see him fight Santos cuz he's lost and interest wouldnt be there. If anything i'd make Santos drop to 147 to fight Tony. But A P Will fight so close after a Cotto fight is a bad move, I would make that a October November fight depending on the scars
        I see what your saying and yeah, Marg will have to heal up after the Cotto fight BUT its just wishful thinking....

        As for Santos, i think it would be a good fight either way at 147/154 and would do good #'s in PR or Mexico........

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        • #34
          Hes fighting Phillips because all there welters are scared......

          I dont really care for a third Quitana fight.....

          I wont come out and say Williams beat Floyd..but the more Floyd sits on his ass..hes only lowering his chances...Willaism might actually just jump on Floyd if they met..because FLOYD CANNOT BE OUTBOXED.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Dice View Post
            All this Cotto hating and Floyd hating and hating in general, lets have a damn serious discussion like the intellegent boxing fans we supposed to be.
            considering the level of idiocy of late this is a welcome relief. I will answer all since I do consider myself a fan of all of them at some level or another.

            For the Cotto fans:
            What can your boy do to win that rematch against Tony? Cotto claims he tried going to the body, Cotto outboxed him early, Cotto did everything he should have done, what the hell do you recommend him do?
            keep it in the middle of the ring by turning Margarito instead of walking backwards whenever Tony pursued. Keep the jab pumping to throw off Tony's rythym as hard as it is to believe Tony is a rythym fighter as well. Keep the attack short and do not engage in long trading of punches with Tony

            I think that Cotto need to work that damn stamina up cuz if not, that chin is gonna make him lose again!
            stamina isn't necessarily something you can train for. More times than not its either you have it or you don't. We have seen Cotto tire several times so I am not sure what more can be done to improve it.

            For the Margarito fans:
            Regardless of hate from any fans, do you as Tony fans want to see a Williams rematch?
            I'm hearing all this trash about Oscar wont fight him, him fighting Mosley, fighting Cotto again, I feel he got unfinished biz with Williams but I want to know if you guys want that fight to happen.
            of course! Tony's biggest fans want to see him avenge his loss so I think that point is a given. Can he? Yeah I think he can. There is an agression factor of late for Tony he didnt have that I think can make a difference.


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            I usually find that most Mayweather fans are also Williams fans so on some G ****, who would win that fight if they meet? Flawless claim Williams can beat anyone from 147-160 but do you really feel he cud beat mayweather? I think Mayweather would just show how superior he is and get a wide UD, but when Williams is on tho, he on.
            Williams has a style and a stance that would pose problems for Mayweather. Mayweather for once would have to be on the offensive rather than site back and potshot. Williams style does lend itself better to guys who can dig in his chest and land leads but Mayweather would have to commit to do it and I am nit sure the 147lb version of Mayweather would.

            And finally, Williams fans, why the hell is he fightin that bum Verno?? I know no one wants to fight him but my dog Carlos wants a third fight so why not make it happen? I know the second fight was a one round blow out but this is boxing, anything can happen, remember Carlos outboxed him in the first fight. Do you guys want to see Williams-Quintana 3, and when?

            That is all
            because Verno has a belt....Carlos not so much. His win over Quintana was emphatic enough to not warrant a third fight to be honest.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Dice View Post
              All this Cotto hating and Floyd hating and hating in general, lets have a damn serious discussion like the intellegent boxing fans we supposed to be.

              For the Cotto fans:
              What can your boy do to win that rematch against Tony? Cotto claims he tried going to the body, Cotto outboxed him early, Cotto did everything he should have done, what the hell do you recommend him do?

              I think that Cotto need to work that damn stamina up cuz if not, that chin is gonna make him lose again!

              For the Margarito fans:
              Regardless of hate from any fans, do you as Tony fans want to see a Williams rematch? I'm hearing all this trash about Oscar wont fight him, him fighting Mosley, fighting Cotto again, I feel he got unfinished biz with Williams but I want to know if you guys want that fight to happen.

              For the Mayweather Williams fans:

              I usually find that most Mayweather fans are also Williams fans so on some G ****, who would win that fight if they meet? Flawless claim Williams can beat anyone from 147-160 but do you really feel he cud beat mayweather? I think Mayweather would just show how superior he is and get a wide UD, but when Williams is on tho, he on.

              And finally, Williams fans, why the hell is he fightin that bum Verno?? I know no one wants to fight him but my dog Carlos wants a third fight so why not make it happen? I know the second fight was a one round blow out but this is boxing, anything can happen, remember Carlos outboxed him in the first fight. Do you guys want to see Williams-Quintana 3, and when?

              That is all
              1) cotto need to improve the stamina or reduce the output

              2) marg should fight williams

              3) williams too big too active for floyd imho

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              • #37
                Well, cotto said he never had the real chance throw effective body shots but he also said there would be no excuses. if Margarito fought floyd he would break down marg with body shots and when marg puts pressure on him little floyd would bounce off the ropes and hit him with combos.

                I dont think other people realise that cottos punches didnt have much power or substance to them. if they did his punches would of knocked him out. little floyd would use both his hands to coun ter margarito and get a late stoppage or a desicion over marg.

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                • #38
                  I highly doubt Floyd ko's Tony, an iron chin is an iron chin, but he would beat him tho. Thanks to all the unbiased responses and as far as stamina, one builds that with intense cardio training. Cotto will need that for the rematch

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Dice View Post
                    All this Cotto hating and Floyd hating and hating in general, lets have a damn serious discussion like the intellegent boxing fans we supposed to be.

                    For the Cotto fans:
                    What can your boy do to win that rematch against Tony? Cotto claims he tried going to the body, Cotto outboxed him early, Cotto did everything he should have done, what the hell do you recommend him do?

                    I think that Cotto need to work that damn stamina up cuz if not, that chin is gonna make him lose again!

                    For the Margarito fans:
                    Regardless of hate from any fans, do you as Tony fans want to see a Williams rematch? I'm hearing all this trash about Oscar wont fight him, him fighting Mosley, fighting Cotto again, I feel he got unfinished biz with Williams but I want to know if you guys want that fight to happen.

                    For the Mayweather Williams fans:

                    I usually find that most Mayweather fans are also Williams fans so on some G ****, who would win that fight if they meet? Flawless claim Williams can beat anyone from 147-160 but do you really feel he cud beat mayweather? I think Mayweather would just show how superior he is and get a wide UD, but when Williams is on tho, he on.

                    And finally, Williams fans, why the hell is he fightin that bum Verno?? I know no one wants to fight him but my dog Carlos wants a third fight so why not make it happen? I know the second fight was a one round blow out but this is boxing, anything can happen, remember Carlos outboxed him in the first fight. Do you guys want to see Williams-Quintana 3, and when?

                    That is all
                    Question 1.. Short of bringing a baseball bat into the ring, I don't see what MORE Cotto can do..

                    Question 2.. Margarito should rematch Williams.. It's a no brainer..

                    Question 3... If Williams can be beaten by Quintana.. Then he will lose 10 times out of 10 against Floyd Mayweather.. It's a no brainer

                    Question 4.. Williams should fight a 3rd fight against Quintana... From my point of veiw.. the 2nd fight was a fluke... It's a no brainer

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Welter_Skelter View Post
                      Question 1.. Short of bringing a baseball bat into the ring, I don't see what MORE Cotto can do..

                      Question 2.. Margarito should rematch Williams.. It's a no brainer..

                      Question 3... If Williams can be beaten by Quintana.. Then he will lose 10 times out of 10 against Floyd Mayweather.. It's a no brainer

                      Question 4.. Williams should fight a 3rd fight against Quintana... From my point of veiw.. the 2nd fight was a fluke... It's a no brainer
                      I wouldnt call Williams-Quintana 2 a fluke but I def wanna see a part three, thanks for all the intelligent responses

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