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  • #21
    Originally posted by Flawless 2 View Post
    That is Wladimir, Vitali has never been stopped
    LMAO oh **** it is.....i read it wrong....go ahead flame me

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    • #22
      Originally posted by lparm View Post
      That's the most absurd **** I've heard today, Cal beat Hop because he adjusted in the middle rounds and consistantly beat him to the punch. It had nothing to do with color it had everything to do with Hop taking rounds off against a guy that has great stamina.
      I think Joe has a very good workrate, but didn't you notice it wasn't really until the Old Man tired out that Joe started to really win those rounds. That's why Grandpa started to hold a lot more and buy time. He wasn't hurt, except in the stamina department.

      Hopkins hasn't had the same stamina in quite some time; maybe 7-8 years or so. He used to just take off the first 5 or so rounds to conserve energy but in that fight he started fighting from the first round. I'm not sure he had a choice in the matter though because Joe can fight hard for all 12; so maybe he considered that.

      Hopkins back in the day, prior to Tito, and even with Tito, could fight from round one.
      Last edited by Benny Leonard; 11-25-2008, 08:06 AM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Precision View Post
        Paul Williams - Power.

        He has one his last two fights by 1st round KO and that now means he's the next Tommy Hearns.
        I wonder if he would sit-down on his punches how much power he could genertat; just curious.

        I heard Hearns wasn't a knockout artist in the amatuers until he went to Emmanuel Steward who corrected him and showed him how to plant his feet for power.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Unbiased View Post
          I actually don't think Zab's potential is overrated at all. Just watching the first few rounds of him against Floyd show's what he's capable of at his best. Even against Cotto, I forget which round but I remember him throwing the most perfectly timed and explosively powerful uppercut as Cotto came in. **** was a thing of beauty.

          I never thought his defense was spectacular and don't think its widely regarded that way. But when it comes to his powerpunching from all angles, and his explosive speed throwing those bombs, he is seriously second to no one. Very few fighters can throw an super quick, super powerful shot from all angles. He breaks my heart every time he fights.
          I agree with that assessment about Zab, and I believe it was the 1st round against Cotto. Seriously, who leads with an uppercut and actually scores?? That thing was one of the greatest improvised punches I've seen.

          The thing with Zab is that he's very inconsistent. So it's easy to say he's overrated when he's fighting like he'd rather be somewhere else.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by tito yuca View Post
            Zab Judah - everything

            people say he's the fastest fighter in boxing
            people say he has one-punch KO power
            they say he has great footwork and defensive skill
            some even call him the most athletically gifted fighter out there

            all of these suggestions are laughable
            At one point these had elements of truth to them...like wen he fought mayweather he was just as fast if not faster than mayweather but just let himself go and was terribly conditioned...he was his own worst enemy because he has potential but never did enough to discover his tru greatness and match the statements made

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            • #26
              bump....................

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              • #27
                Originally posted by JulioCesaChavez View Post
                Joe Calslappy - workrate

                Could not do **** all when B HOP schooled him. Was given deciusion due to age and colour. He can unload V washed up fighters and bums. Also robbed Robin Reid who was average
                Oh FFS. This is utter garbage.

                So "he" robbed Robin Reid? How about the judges who scored the fight? Or do you think the fighter's themselves put the points on the cards? Robin Reid had no problem with the decision and said so after the fight. He was also offered a rematch. He refused it.

                Get outta here with saying JC's workrate is overrated. So Kessler's a bum, that's why Joe threw over 1,000 punches? Anyone who calls Kessler a bum shouldn't be on the forums. Clown.



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                • #28
                  Zab Judah - Boxing Skills
                  Its more natural attributes than actual skills

                  Cory Spinks - Defense
                  We could all look defensive if we constantly stood 10 feet away from our opponents.

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                  • #29
                    oscardelahoya...#1 MOST OVERATED OF ALL TIME!!!! OTHER THAN FAN SUPPORT, AND DRAWING POWER AT THE GATES AND PPV EVENTS, AND CONNING PEOPLE INTO FILLING HIS POCKETS, WHILE NOT DELIVERING AGAINST SMALLER, OR RECENTLY BEATEN, OR RUNNING AWAY, OR QUITTING, OR TAKING A DIVE, AND DUCKING OPPONANTS!!! osdlh IS THE GREATEST HALL OF FAMER MOST OVERRATED OF ALL TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPORT OF BOXING.... FRAUD... NO OTHER COMES CLOSE!!!!...100X35...

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                    • #30
                      Valuev's jab... it's **** against moving opponents to the point where a shot Evander Holyfield actually looked good against him.

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