Dlh And Margo Born In The Usa

[Caxcan]

This whole debate about who's a true Mexican is pretty ridiculous. It's not up to any of us to define who someone truly is. It's clear that de la hoya feels strongly about his Mexican roots and no one can take that away from him. Genetically speaking, both groups are the same as well but... we also have to acknowledge that Mexican culture is different Mexican American culture and so are our experiences. For ex, I dont think anyone would claim that Italian-American culture is exactly the same as Italian culture.

That being said.. I actually believe De La Hoya is more in touch with his Mexican culture than the average Chicano. DLH was born and raised in the heart of East LA and was surrounded by the Chicano boxing culture which has it's root in Mexico (many of the trainers are Mexican born). DLH actually speaks better Spanish than English and I dont think the typical chicano has waved as many Mexican flags as DLH has. However... that doesnt mean that a Mexican boxing fan (who resides in Mexico) should identify with him the same way they identify with one of their paisanos. DLH was born and raised in the US, represented this country in the Olympics, and he currently lives in PR with his family.. Mexican fans dont really know him all that well so why would they root for him over one of their many Mexican champs? As far as Margarito is concerned, he was born in the US but he and his family moved back when he was just a baby so he obviously doesnt identify with American culture the way DLH does and obviously isnt fluent in English as a result but.. I'm sure that will change as he spends more time in the US...

[ferocity]

Have you ever heard real Raza speak english, come on now Delahoya speaks better english not even close the other way around. And not everybody who is born in the USA considers themselves Chicano, and most that do are proud of both sides but don't lose there Mexican heritage and are knowledgeable with there roots, background, heritage and well versed in its history Mexican and American. I'd call Margarito Mexican then call him Chicano even though he was born in the USA and im sure he considers himself Mexican.

[ferocity]

Before the media told you Margarito was born in America, what nationality did you call Margarito?

[The Scientist]

This whole debate about who's a true Mexican is pretty ridiculous. It's not up to any of us to define who someone truly is. It's clear that de la hoya feels strongly about his Mexican roots and no one can take that away from him. Genetically speaking, both groups are the same as well but... we also have to acknowledge that Mexican culture is different Mexican American culture and so are our experiences. For ex, I dont think anyone would claim that Italian-American culture is exactly the same as Italian culture.

That being said.. I actually believe De La Hoya is more in touch with his Mexican culture than the average Chicano. DLH was born and raised in the heart of East LA and was surrounded by the Chicano boxing culture which has it's root in Mexico (many of the trainers are Mexican born). DLH actually speaks better Spanish than English and I dont think the typical chicano has waved as many Mexican flags as DLH has. However... that doesnt mean that a Mexican boxing fan (who resides in Mexico) should identify with him the same way they identify with one of their paisanos. DLH was born and raised in the US, represented this country in the Olympics, and he currently lives in PR with his family.. Mexican fans dont really know him all that well so why would they root for him over one of their many Mexican champs? As far as Margarito is concerned, he was born in the US but he and his family moved back when he was just a baby so he obviously doesnt identify with American culture the way DLH does and obviously isnt fluent in English as a result but.. I'm sure that will change as he spends more time in the US...

Good post. Like I said culturally speaking there may be an obvious difference, but genetically (provided both your parents were born in Mexico) you're not any "less Mexican" just because you're born in another land.

[ferocity]

Good post. Like I said culturally speaking there may be an obvious difference, but genetically (provided both your parents were born in Mexico) you're not any "less Mexican" just because you're born in another land.

lol, so now you admit this, **** you

[The Scientist]

lol, so now you admit this, **** you

When did I ever deny it? The subject was heritage and place of birth, here let me refresh your memory...

Poverty doesn't discriminate, and it's not defined exclusively by one single race, it goes across the board. De La Hoya not living in Mexico and having "more opportunities" for living in U.S.A, doesn't make him any less Mexican than Margarito, that's just ******ed to say. All immigrants come to America for a better life, those who choose to stay never lose their heritage and still work hard to earn their keep.

come on now, pay attention homie.

[BROOKLYN CESAR]

Who gives a **** they both suck ****!!!

[Komander]

Who gives a **** they both suck ****!!!

Both would fuck Vargas up.

[The Scientist]

Both would fuck Vargas up.

I wonder what Vargas is up to now.....

[Lazy Liberal]

I wonder what Vargas is up to now.....

he's up to 260 lbs...................