Is There Anyway Wlad Will Fight Toney?

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I see they fighting the same night and james has been calling them out forever, any chance wlad takes that fight? If both win of course.

wlad has no reason to fight toney. toney needs to get his fat ass in shape and a couple wins under his belt.

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James doesnt want a ****ing thing to do with either Klitschko

Toney started running his mouth when Wlad already had a fight, there was never a word from him when Wlad needed an opponent because Povetkin pulled

he turned down 1.5 million offer to fight Wlad in the past

Toney just talks **** about the Klitschkos to keep his name out there, he has no intention of fighting either

No you are thinking of Vitali.

Anyway, Toney should avoid a fight with Wladimir like he avoids vegetables.

[KostyaTszyu44]

Toney is a disgraceful ignorant racist loudmouth pig

already slurring his words im not sure if that is from punishment he has taken in the ring or the fact that he is just dumb

either way he ever decides he actually wants to fight the Klitschkos he gets destroyed

you ******* you dont know what youre talking about, how is he disgraceful and ignorant?? he is one of the best fighters of his generation

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you ******* you dont know what youre talking about, how is he disgraceful and ignorant?? he is one of the best fighters of his generation

Relax its just an opinion. Nobody will die from it.

[TheManchine]

you ******* you dont know what youre talking about, how is he disgraceful and ignorant?? he is one of the best fighters of his generation

im an ******* because i posted what everyone already knows about Toney

Toney is completely ignorant, you are too young and/or dumb to see it

so what if he is "one of the best fighters of this generation"?

it doesnt change the fact that he is a loudmouthed ignorant racist clown

[TheManchine]

No you are thinking of Vitali.

Anyway, Toney should avoid a fight with Wladimir like he avoids vegetables.

no it was Wlad

here is the article




Why won't Toney fight Klitschko?

By Ben Cohen: It was reported recently that heavyweight James Toney rejected an offer of $1.5million to fight WBO champion Wladimir Klitschko.

The Michigan born fighter who started his career at 160lbs, has steadily eaten his way up to 237lbs, beating up many world-class fighters along the way. He has shown absolutely no fear of any of the heavyweights, and has proved his worth at 200lb plus to all those who doubted him.

So why then, has Toney decided not to fight Klitschko in what would certainly be the biggest and most competitive heavyweight fight in years?

It is not as if 'Lights Out' has shown any reservations in fighting the big men of boxing. Officially making his mark in the heavyweight division with a 9th round TKO of veteran Evander Holyfield in 2003, Toney has since been involved with two Heavyweight championship bouts.

In 2005, Toney took on John Ruiz for the WBA belt, and clearly out boxed the ponderous 'Quiet Man', taking a unanimous decision. However, Toney was found to have banned substances in his system (the residuals of medication he was taking for an injury he claimed later), and was stripped of the title.

Toney came back with another good points victory over Dominick Guinn, and was then given another title shot against WBC champion Hasim Rahman in early 2006.

Weighing an enormous 237lbs, Toney boxed well, but was outworked by a fitter Rahman for many of the rounds in the fight. The bout was declared a draw, and Toney again, went home without the belt he has sought so desperately since turning professional in 1988.

Toney has again been offered a shot at the Heavyweight title, this time Klitschko. Uncharacteristically he has backed out saying the money was not good enough.

In the past, Toney has referred to Klitschko as "garbage", calling him a "bum with no chin" and saying he could beat him "with ease".

Klitschko has had an uneasy few years, getting knocked out twice, and looking far from stellar in several of his outings. However, he has recently bounced back with a huge victory over former rival Chris Byrd. The Ukranian bludgeoned Bryd in five extremely one sided rounds, displaying some excellent defensive work and phenomenal punching power.

Could it be that upon viewing the fight with Byrd, Toney does not fancy his chances against the 6ft 5 Klitschko?

Not so, says trainer Freddy Roach.

"Well I wouldn't fight Wladimir Klitschko for 1.5 million dollars", Roach told Secondsout flatly.

"That's not enough money to fight a guy like that for the world championship. For the right price he will fight the right guy. I know he is the mandatory for the winner of the Rahman fight, and maybe he'll get better paid for that," he said of Toney's proposed world title rematch.

And to be fair, this is a good point from camp Toney. Klitschko is probably the most dangerous heavyweight out there, and after all of Toney's training expenses, he would only walk away with a few hundred thousand. For the biggest fight of his life, that is not nearly enough motivation for a man of Toney's age and stature in the game.

And what of the weight? Coming in almost 80lbs over his former middleweight self, Toney has hardly looked serious about fighting someone of the skill and power of Klitschko. He may have been able to get away with it with the John Ruiz's and Hasim Rahman's of boxing, but Wladimir Klitshcko is definitely in a different league.

Will Roach put his foot down about Toney's weight if he was to fight Klitschko for the title?

"The thing is, I don't think I'm going to have to put my foot down", replied Roach quickly.

"I think that James realises that he needs to be in better shape, and if he doesn't realise then he never will. James is his own man, and I've had some talks with him, and he realises he needs to be in better shape. If that can't motivate him, then I don't think anything can. If that doesn't motivate James Toney then he's not going to be heavyweight champion of the world. He is 10-15 lbs away from that title, he knows that and he'll make the adjustments. I'm sure of it."

Having stated that he would come down to under 220lbs if he were to fight Klitschko, does Roach believe that Toney is actually physically capable of making decent weight?

"Its just like when he fought Jirov", he said referring to Toney's magnificent performance all the way down at 190lbs in 2003.

"He knows he can do it."

And if he can't, it would not be wise for him to get in the ring with someone as good as Klitschko.

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no it was Wlad

here is the article




Why won't Toney fight Klitschko?

By Ben Cohen: It was reported recently that heavyweight James Toney rejected an offer of $1.5million to fight WBO champion Wladimir Klitschko.

The Michigan born fighter who started his career at 160lbs, has steadily eaten his way up to 237lbs, beating up many world-class fighters along the way. He has shown absolutely no fear of any of the heavyweights, and has proved his worth at 200lb plus to all those who doubted him.

So why then, has Toney decided not to fight Klitschko in what would certainly be the biggest and most competitive heavyweight fight in years?

It is not as if 'Lights Out' has shown any reservations in fighting the big men of boxing. Officially making his mark in the heavyweight division with a 9th round TKO of veteran Evander Holyfield in 2003, Toney has since been involved with two Heavyweight championship bouts.

In 2005, Toney took on John Ruiz for the WBA belt, and clearly out boxed the ponderous 'Quiet Man', taking a unanimous decision. However, Toney was found to have banned substances in his system (the residuals of medication he was taking for an injury he claimed later), and was stripped of the title.

Toney came back with another good points victory over Dominick Guinn, and was then given another title shot against WBC champion Hasim Rahman in early 2006.

Weighing an enormous 237lbs, Toney boxed well, but was outworked by a fitter Rahman for many of the rounds in the fight. The bout was declared a draw, and Toney again, went home without the belt he has sought so desperately since turning professional in 1988.

Toney has again been offered a shot at the Heavyweight title, this time Klitschko. Uncharacteristically he has backed out saying the money was not good enough.

In the past, Toney has referred to Klitschko as "garbage", calling him a "bum with no chin" and saying he could beat him "with ease".

Klitschko has had an uneasy few years, getting knocked out twice, and looking far from stellar in several of his outings. However, he has recently bounced back with a huge victory over former rival Chris Byrd. The Ukranian bludgeoned Bryd in five extremely one sided rounds, displaying some excellent defensive work and phenomenal punching power.

Could it be that upon viewing the fight with Byrd, Toney does not fancy his chances against the 6ft 5 Klitschko?

Not so, says trainer Freddy Roach.

"Well I wouldn't fight Wladimir Klitschko for 1.5 million dollars", Roach told Secondsout flatly.

"That's not enough money to fight a guy like that for the world championship. For the right price he will fight the right guy. I know he is the mandatory for the winner of the Rahman fight, and maybe he'll get better paid for that," he said of Toney's proposed world title rematch.

And to be fair, this is a good point from camp Toney. Klitschko is probably the most dangerous heavyweight out there, and after all of Toney's training expenses, he would only walk away with a few hundred thousand. For the biggest fight of his life, that is not nearly enough motivation for a man of Toney's age and stature in the game.

And what of the weight? Coming in almost 80lbs over his former middleweight self, Toney has hardly looked serious about fighting someone of the skill and power of Klitschko. He may have been able to get away with it with the John Ruiz's and Hasim Rahman's of boxing, but Wladimir Klitshcko is definitely in a different league.

Will Roach put his foot down about Toney's weight if he was to fight Klitschko for the title?

"The thing is, I don't think I'm going to have to put my foot down", replied Roach quickly.

"I think that James realises that he needs to be in better shape, and if he doesn't realise then he never will. James is his own man, and I've had some talks with him, and he realises he needs to be in better shape. If that can't motivate him, then I don't think anything can. If that doesn't motivate James Toney then he's not going to be heavyweight champion of the world. He is 10-15 lbs away from that title, he knows that and he'll make the adjustments. I'm sure of it."

Having stated that he would come down to under 220lbs if he were to fight Klitschko, does Roach believe that Toney is actually physically capable of making decent weight?

"Its just like when he fought Jirov", he said referring to Toney's magnificent performance all the way down at 190lbs in 2003.

"He knows he can do it."

And if he can't, it would not be wise for him to get in the ring with someone as good as Klitschko.

He turned down a fight with Vitali as well.. Honestly 1.5mil is peanuts considering the risk he would be taking.

[Ryn0]

Would be a better fight than Wlad-Rahman will be

[LondonRingRules]

I see they fighting the same night and james has been calling them out forever, any chance wlad takes that fight? If both win of course.

** Big IF.

Over the past 4 yrs out of 7 fights, Toney's won exactly two (2) fights, decisions over Guinn and Batchelder. He was suspended for steroid use in the Batchelder fight and Ruiz fight.

Maybe Boozo can swing his considerable rump and whack out a contract, but the main reason Wlad is fighting Rahman and not Toney is Rahman can be sold as the two time champ and one time conqueror of Lewis. Rahman also has a bigger ranking and he's easier on the ears in press conferences.

Cheerio now.......