Does Haye have the power at Heavyweight...

[Mugwump]

I agree that Haye's chances against the brothers K are less than even. However, I'm amazed at the number of people who think it's possible to take three years out of the sport and return the same man.

As a wise old bird once said - "They don't come back".

[Dan...]

I agree that Haye's chances against the brothers K are less than even. However, I'm amazed at the number of people who think it's possible to take three years out of the sport and return the same man.

As a wise old bird once said - "They don't come back".

Did you see Vitali in against Peter? I know Sam is no worldbeater but Vitali was damn impressive in that fight IMO.

[Mugwump]

Did you see Vitali in against Peter? I know Sam is no worldbeater but Vitali was damn impressive in that fight IMO.

Tyson looked impressive knocking over tomato cans after he got out of prison. I just don't think it's possible to take years out of the game and not have it affect you in a big way.

[Dan...]

Tyson looked impressive knocking over tomato cans after he got out of prison. I just don't think it's possible to take years out of the game and not have it affect you in a big way.

LOL, Peter was recognised as being in the top 5 of the division when Vitali completely destroyed him. Your agrument is ridiculous. I was saying a similar thing prior to the fight but to argue that point now is just nuts.

[Mugwump]

LOL, Peter was recognised as being in the top 5 of the division when Vitali completely destroyed him. Your agrument is ridiculous. I was saying a similar thing prior to the fight but to argue that point now is just nuts.

A single victory against a wheezing, lumbering blubber-bellied hasbeen is meaningless. If Peter posed any realistic threat Vitali wouldn't have fought him. No-one with any sense would following a three-year hiatus. And Vitali has plenty of sense.

The test comes when his opponent isn't held up by strings. Unfortunately, it seems just about everyone in the HW division is at this moment.

[Dan...]

A single victory against a wheezing, lumbering blubber-bellied hasbeen is meaningless. If Peter posed any realistic threat Vitali wouldn't have fought him. No-one with any sense would following a three-year hiatus. And Vitali has plenty of sense.

The test comes when his opponent isn't held up by strings. Unfortunately, it seems just about everyone in the HW division is at this moment.

I understand your point of view but the reality is that Peter represents one of the top contenders in today's HW division and Vitali destroyed him. End of story really.

[ragingvic]

He has the power, but not the chin. I really wish he didnt fall, but he did and you cant help but think what happens when he actually gets hit multiple times.

[Mugwump]

I understand your point of view but the reality is that Peter represents one of the top contenders in today's HW division and Vitali destroyed him. End of story really.

Clearly it's the end of THAT story. As for the wider one - it remains to be seen. Remember, the phrase 'They don't come back' is backed by plenty of hard evidence - starting with no less than Ali himself.

[Njord777]

Haye doesn't seem to have devastating one punch power at heavyweight in the sense that he could end the night in a single shot. That said, I'd have to see more to say for sure. The interesting thing, to me, is that people are saying David Haye has a weak chin- if we're talking about Wladimir- who has the dictionary definition of a glass chin, Haye might actually have the better chin. Haye-W. Klistchko would be a very interesting fight because Klistchko has shown himself to be susceptible to being put down against a guy with decent pop and some questions about his beard, too.

[landmine950]

no

No...............period.