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  • Zerwas1
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    #11
    Originally posted by The_One77
    Calzaghe by far
    Pacquioa is good but i think he needs to beat Oscar in order to be considered a top fighter, Calzaghe would beat Oscar handily
    Yeah great comparison, Pacman started his career only 60 pounds below Calzaghe

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    • Dan...
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      #12
      Well, considering the p4p #1 is a southpaw.....

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      • The_Italian
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        #13
        I cant pick who is better so its a tie between pacman and calzaghe.

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        • MANGLER
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          #14
          Pac is p4p period, not just lefty.

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            #15
            Originally posted by mangler
            Pac is p4p period, not just lefty.

            tru i see alot of people like manny thats cool honestly he is a beast... when he wins should he stay at welterweight??

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              #16
              Pacman!!

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                #17
                Originally posted by The_Italian
                I cant pick who is better so its a tie between pacman and calzaghe.
                Seriously? I don't see how beating a shell of Jones and winning a disputed decision over a 43 year old BHop bests Pac's recent resume.

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                • warp1432
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by danc1984
                  Seriously? I don't see how beating a shell of Jones and winning a disputed decision over a 43 year old BHop bests Pac's recent resume.
                  Well considering Hopkins and Jones are both better then David Diaz and you'd have a good argument for Marquez beating Pacquiao...

                  But I think there's clearly a distinction between Pacquiao and Calzaghe, which belongs to Pac. I just like nitpicking things apart such as the words "recent resume" when infact Jones > David Diaz .

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by warp1432
                    Well considering Hopkins and Jones are both better then David Diaz and you'd have a good argument for Marquez beating Pacquiao...

                    But I think there's clearly a distinction between Pacquiao and Calzaghe, which belongs to Pac. I just like nitpicking things apart such as the words "recent resume" when infact Jones > David Diaz .
                    Everything is disputable though Warp. Is the Jones who won a competitve decision over Hanshaw really a better win than Diaz? And if you are going to bring up that ppl had Marquez beating Pac in the second fight you can easily switch it around and say a lot of experts had BHop winning the Calzaghe fight.

                    By recent resume I was more talking about their last 5 or so fights.

                    Diaz, Marquez, Barrera, Solis, Morales > Bika, Manfredo, Kessler, Hopkins, Roy


                    IMO.

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                    • warp1432
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by danc1984
                      Everything is disputable though Warp. Is the Jones who won a competitve decision over Hanshaw really a better win than Diaz? And if you are going to bring up that ppl had Marquez beating Pac in the second fight you can easily switch it around and say a lot of experts had BHop winning the Calzaghe fight.

                      By recent resume I was more talking about their last 5 or so fights.

                      Diaz, Marquez, Barrera, Solis, Morales > Bika, Manfredo, Kessler, Hopkins, Roy


                      IMO.
                      You could say that Jones was better then Diaz because even though he won a competitve decision with Hanshaw, that's still better then a close win against an old faded Erik Morales.

                      You bring up a good point about the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight because I was one of those people who did score it for Hopkins, but you'd have a much easier time in arguing that Marquez should have gotten the nod then Hopkins did imo.

                      And I took recent as in 2008's resume. That's why.

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