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  • -Boxzilla-
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    #21
    Mayweather UD Margarito, i love him but he'll be way to slow and too easy to counter. PBF will not make the same mistakes as cotto and get the UD.

    Mayweather UD Cotto, cotto has shown he is easy to hit, i do not see him knocking him out but i see another relatively easy win, especially since cotto seems to have abandoned his best punch, the left to the body in many of his last fights.

    Mayweather UD Clottey, tough and boring fight, mayweather by an unspectacular UD.

    Mayweather vs. Williams hardest one to call, but if quintana can do it once PBF can do it better, but williams reach and busyness will give him trouble. but i still see him getting the ud.

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #22
      Why would Williams give Floyd a lot of problems, I never got this. Williams does not fight big at all he grapples (he also lack technical skill) and fights inside. If Williams is giving up his height how is that any kind of advantage. I think Floyd would beat him to the punch all day and frusterate him.

      I think he would do a number on Cotto and outbox Margarito cleanly. Clottey is tough to say would be an interesting chess match but most people would call it boring, Clottey tends to fade though and has lost his cool before so i would have to favor Floyd.
      Last edited by The Gambler1981; 11-14-2008, 09:39 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by wmute
        His stamina is that great, he never looked even remotely tired in any of his fights, regardless of the output, of how many punches he took... His ridiculous training habits do pay off.

        Floyd cannot handle leftys is wishful thinking... He lost at most 5 rounds combined against Corley and Judah. Like everyone he is better trained to fight righties. That being said Williams has the package to give him the most trouble.

        Every fighter is less dominant when he faces better opposition, what's your point. And the only judge who scored 7 rounds for Oscar wrote a pamphlet on how aggression should be weighed as much as clean hard punches when scoring a round (true story!). As for Castillo.... Mayweather was injured in the 1st fight, and unlike some other greats immediately rematched Castillo and won a clear UD.

        he is no fitter than the majority of fighters you can only train so long or hard and then you are going into over training he does not get tired cause he fights so defensively and pot shots

        his own father said he struggles with leftys and he got slightly buzzed against Corley and was outboxed untill Judah tired as per normal

        Floyd is apparently always injured after a fight when he is performs under par its bull**** the only time i believe his hands was properly hurt was C Hernandez fight

        he cannot dominate top competition simple as that UD over all those fighter is ridiculous even Sosa gave him more problems than he should have also Chavez was giving him trouble untill he tired

        he is overrated massively

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          #24
          Originally posted by The Gambler1981
          Why would Williams give Floyd a lot of probelms, I never got this. Williams does not fight big at all he grapples (he also lack technical skill) and fights inside. If Williams is giving up his height how is that any kind of advantage. I think Floyd would beat him to the punch all day and frusterate him.

          I think he would do a number on Cotto and outbox Margarito cleanly. Clottey is tough to say would be an interesting chess match but most people would call it boring, Clottey tends to fade though and has lost his cool before so i would have to favor Floyd.
          His output, and he is not as slow as Tony, so he would land some and not be too hurt by the counters. I agree that Williams is nothing special in terms of skills.

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            #25
            Originally posted by wmute
            His output, and he is not as slow as Tony, so he would land some and not be too hurt by the counters. I agree that Williams is nothing special in terms of skills.
            His output is good for sure, but I never thought Floyd had any problem dealing with output. I do not think Williams is capable of putting the quality needed in his output to really make it work against Floyd. I also think Williams is a sucker for straight right hands.

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              #26
              Originally posted by wmute
              His output, and he is not as slow as Tony, so he would land some and not be too hurt by the counters. I agree that Williams is nothing special in terms of skills.
              difference between J L Castillo ,Jesus Chavez is Margarito is 154lbs naturally and hit a lot harder and he is physically stronger

              you think Floyd would get away with fighting off the ropes?no chance he would get hammered on the ropes he would have to keep moving and that would take energy i can easily see Margarito catching up with him late he may not win but Floyd would not have it all his own way by UD

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                #27
                Originally posted by Terrible...
                he is no fitter than the majority of fighters you can only train so long or hard and then you are going into over training he does not get tired cause he fights so defensively and pot shots

                his own father said he struggles with leftys and he got slightly buzzed against Corley and was outboxed untill Judah tired as per normal

                Floyd is apparently always injured after a fight when he is performs under par its bull**** the only time i believe his hands was properly hurt was C Hernandez fight

                he cannot dominate top competition simple as that UD over all those fighter is ridiculous even Sosa gave him more problems than he should have also Chavez was giving him trouble untill he tired

                he is overrated massively
                Was he tired after fighing Hatton, Chavez, Corley, Judah, Augustus, Castillo 1? No, well then your point is moot.

                His own father said.... lol. They hate each other, what do you expect? Did you ever hear them say anything good about each other? What kind of dumb point is that?

                So Judah gets tired after 4 rounds, hmm why didnt he get tired against Cory Spinks? Certainly the Mayweather fight evolved has nothing to do with Judah not winning rounds. Judah btw has 10x the skills Williams has.

                He got buzzed against Corley, because he chose to fight a fight where he could get hit, and again... most fighters would beg to be like that when they get buzzed...

                Did Mayweather complain about injuries after the Oscar fight? No, well then... and AGAIN he rematched the guy after a close win, (unlike your idol)

                Chavez never gave him any trouble, he just didnt fight potshotting, but he unleashed all sorts of punishment on Chavez in the process.... call that trouble.

                Sosa gave him trouble? As he did not pitch a shutout? Yeah I guess that's trouble. See the point is that he is expected to win every round of every fight... in which case you are the one overrating him.

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                • wmute
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Terrible...
                  difference between J L Castillo ,Jesus Chavez is Margarito is 154lbs naturally and hit a lot harder and he is physically stronger

                  you think Floyd would get away with fighting off the ropes?no chance he would get hammered on the ropes he would have to keep moving and that would take energy i can easily see Margarito catching up with him late he may not win but Floyd would not have it all his own way by UD
                  Did you read my assesment of this fight? It's almost like that (meaning I give Marg a chance to land enough punches to slow him and catch him), only I factor in that Chavez, Castillo and Margarito dont fight alike, which you seem to believe. Castillo has 10x more skills than Margarito, he can cut off the ring and has excellent timing with his punches. Margarito throws 1000 slow inaccurate punches and just follows you around. And Chavez is faster than Margarito, simply because he is a 130 fighter. The MArgarito fight would look nothing like those

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                  • wmute
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                    #29
                    btw Margarito must be a natural at 147, since he made the weight forever

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                      #30
                      Floyd decisively decisions all...except Williams, not saying floyd won't win but decisively its tough to call... I think Floyd gets the nod though..

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