Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Cotto is a HUGE ----> ?????

Collapse
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Originally posted by Horus View Post
    Why does Cotto always fights for vacant belts, and never fights the champions
    for those belts?[/FONT]


    You question an olympian who 17 fights into his career was ranked #1 light ww by WBA, then defeats Pinto for his WBO jr ww title, defends it 6 times to:

    Bailey 28-4
    Corley 29-3
    Abdulaev 15-1
    Torres 28-0
    Branco 36-1
    Malignaggi 21-0

    4 of which had more professional wins under their belts than Cotto? 2 undefeated's? And Abdulaev (the worse record) was the guy who beat him in the olympics.
    2 champion quality opposition:
    Malignaggi - IBF champ
    Torres - WBO champ


    Then came Quintana! Is it Cotto's fault Hatton stepped down in weight to facate the WBA title ?
    Quintana's not a nobody. He was able to tarnish Williams record, wasn't he? But if that isn't enough.
    As champ who did Cotto avoid?
    He fough Urkal - twice European Light-Welterweight and EuropeanWelterweight champion
    Mosley - "mr. hall a famer"
    Zab - former undisputed welterweight champion

    was daring enough to fight the most feared ww Marg, and is willing to step back in the ring with him again.
    Williams want Cotto, yea, but Cotto has unfinished business with Marg first.
    He's willing to fight Cintron and Berto.



    [IMG]http://i423.***********.com/albums/pp312/anonymousboxing/detention-1.gif[/IMG]

    Comment


    • Originally posted by anonymousboxing View Post
      You question an olympian who 17 fights
      WHY DO PEOPLE NEVER ANSWER THE DIRECT QUESTION GIVEN TO THEM, INSTEAD THEY RANT...!!

      You still didnt answer the question

      Why does Cotto always fights for vacant belts, and never fights the champions
      for those belts?



      Cotto does well against fighters who are looking to become champions.
      CONTENDERS:
      Bailey (CONTENDER AT THE TIME)
      Corley (CONTENDER AT THE TIME)
      Abdulaev (CONTENDER AT THE TIME)
      Torres (CONTENDER AT THE TIME)
      Branco(CONTENDER AT THE TIME)
      Malignaggi (CONTENDER AT THE TIME)

      But 7 years into his career what we dont know about Cotto yet to a certain extent is
      • How would Cotto do against a reigning Champion, who is in his prime, young and looking to validate himself.

      7 years into Cotto career, and Cotto cannot say to himself I actually Beat the Man to become the Man.
      But Cotto and his supporters wants to say "I am the Man now, because I won his title while he was gone."

      To me Cotto is like the New York Knicks when Jordan Left in His Prime, yeah they are the Eastern Conference champions, but
      who did they beat to get there...????

      Thats why we have words like CHAMPION and CONTENDER.

      Yes Cotto has a good resume for a fighter who is an up and comer and who is trying to make a name for himself.

      But Cotto should be past that point of his career where he is trying to make a name for himself,
      and he should be at the point of his career where he is validating himself.
      • That is a huge difference.


      Cotto understood that, thats why he took the fight with Margarito, to Validate himself.

      And what did him in is the lack of preparation and training throughout his career cause him to fail against Margarito.
      • and Also Margarito Showed that unike a contender, a Champion will finish the job when he has opponent hurt.
      Last edited by Horus; 11-18-2008, 04:39 PM.

      Comment


      • Originally posted by Horus View Post
        if you answer my Cotto question i will be happy to get into this discussion with
        you where we both promise to answer direct questions...no rants
        just direct answers....

        Why does Cotto always fights for vacant belts, and never fights the champions
        for those belts
        ?
        You're asking a question that cannot be answered by any one fan. Find out what Bob Arums email address is, and shoot him an email asking him. If u feel that he is intentionally avoiding opponents who hold titles, then he will be the only person who would be able to answer your question.

        Comment


        • Originally posted by Horus View Post
          WHY DO PEOPLE NEVER ANSWER THE DIRECT QUESTION GIVEN TO THEM, INSTEAD THEY RANT...!!

          You still didnt answer the question

          Why does Cotto always fights for vacant belts, and never fights the champions
          for those belts?
          Because it's less dangerous. It's low risk big reward.

          Casual fans only look to the poster and see that he's a champion and don't try to explain to them all this thing that he doesn't have a win over a current champion.

          He has a big promoter that puts him in good position in the rankings to get fights for vacant titles.

          I'm a boxing fan only for about a year. And I downloaded a few fights of him because there was a lot of talk about him. I became a fan of Cotto. But now I'm a bit more knowledgeable and get the point of that post where you talked of Duran. I think he has all to be a great fighter. Maybe the greatest puertorican of all time. And I think that he is wasting all that talent.

          I'm still a Cotto fan and think that if he win the rematch with Margarito, that is gonna believe in himself more than ever and will look only for the best.

          Comment


          • Originally posted by Cote View Post
            Because it's less dangerous. It's low risk big reward.

            Casual fans only look to the poster and see that he's a champion and don't try to explain to them all this thing that he doesn't have a win over a current champion.

            He has a big promoter that puts him in good position in the rankings to get fights for vacant titles.

            I'm a boxing fan only for about a year. And I downloaded a few fights of him because there was a lot of talk about him. I became a fan of Cotto. But now I'm a bit more knowledgeable and get the point of that post where you talked of Duran. I think he has all to be a great fighter. Maybe the greatest puertorican of all time. And I think that he is wasting all that talent.

            I'm still a Cotto fan and think that if he win the rematch with Margarito, that is gonna believe in himself more than ever and will look only for the best.
            "I think he has all to be a great fighter. Maybe the greatest puertorican of all time. And I think that he is wasting all that talent"



            When is Cotto going to understand that fighting for vacant titles is not
            making his situation better, but worst. Because THOSE FIGHTS ARE NOT VALIDATING HIM. BUT RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT HIM.


            Like you said, he is wasting his talent.!

            he is still trying to make a name for himself instead of validate himself.

            Comment


            • Originally posted by anonymousboxing View Post
              You question an olympian who 17 fights into his career was ranked #1 light ww by WBA, then defeats Pinto for his WBO jr ww title, defends it 6 times to:

              Bailey 28-4
              Corley 29-3
              Abdulaev 15-1
              Torres 28-0
              Branco 36-1
              Malignaggi 21-0

              4 of which had more professional wins under their belts than Cotto? 2 undefeated's? And Abdulaev (the worse record) was the guy who beat him in the olympics.
              2 champion quality opposition:
              Malignaggi - IBF champ
              Torres - WBO champ


              Then came Quintana! Is it Cotto's fault Hatton stepped down in weight to facate the WBA title ?
              Quintana's not a nobody. He was able to tarnish Williams record, wasn't he? But if that isn't enough.
              As champ who did Cotto avoid?
              He fough Urkal - twice European Light-Welterweight and EuropeanWelterweight champion
              Mosley - "mr. hall a famer"
              Zab - former undisputed welterweight champion

              was daring enough to fight the most feared ww Marg, and is willing to step back in the ring with him again.
              Williams want Cotto, yea, but Cotto has unfinished business with Marg first.
              He's willing to fight Cintron and Berto.



              [IMG]http://i423.***********.com/albums/pp312/anonymousboxing/detention-1.gif[/IMG]
              Pwned

              Dont forget Abdullaev was the gold medalist in those same Olympics

              Comment


              • Originally posted by Cote View Post
                Because it's less dangerous. It's low risk big reward.



                I'm still a Cotto fan and think that if he win the rematch with Margarito, that is gonna believe in himself more than ever and will look only for the best.

                Thats what this pattern of fighting for vacant titles is telling me too...

                Low and medium risk for big reward.

                Why else are all your titles are vacant belts.

                Comment


                • Originally posted by Horus View Post
                  if you answer my Cotto question i will be happy to get into this discussion with
                  you where we both promise to answer direct questions...no rants
                  just direct answers....

                  Why does Cotto always fights for vacant belts, and never fights the champions
                  for those belts?
                  Even for you this is a pretty ****** question. He took what was available to him at the time and he proved that he was the champion by defending his belts against the top contenders and ex champions of the divisions he was in. Was he supposed to say no to those opportunities? Just so a fool like you couldn't question the validity of his achievements.

                  If you want serious discussions on your questions, then maybe you shouldn't make such meaningless and obviously biased threads.

                  Comment


                  • Originally posted by BMWM3P View Post
                    Even for you this is a pretty ****** question. He took what was available to him at the time and he proved that he was the champion by defending his belts against the top contenders and ex champions of the divisions he was in. Was he supposed to say no to those opportunities? Just so a fool like you couldn't question the validity of his achievements.

                    If you want serious discussions on your questions, then maybe you shouldn't make such meaningless and obviously biased threads.
                    See it wouldnt be a problem if this wasnt a pattern.!!! but this is a pattern.

                    Low/Medium risk for Medium and big rewards.


                    Cotto does well against fighters who are looking to become champions.
                    CONTENDERS:
                    Bailey (CONTENDER AT THE TIME)
                    Corley (CONTENDER AT THE TIME)
                    Abdulaev (CONTENDER AT THE TIME)
                    Torres (CONTENDER AT THE TIME)
                    Branco(CONTENDER AT THE TIME)
                    Malignaggi (CONTENDER AT THE TIME)
                    Carlos Quintana(CONTENDER AT THE TIME)
                    Oktay Urkal(CONTENDER AT THE TIME)


                    But 7 years into his career what we dont know about Cotto yet to a certain extent is
                    • How would Cotto do against a reigning Champion, who is in his prime, young and looking to validate himself.

                    7 years into Cotto career, and Cotto cannot say to himself I actually Beat the Man to become the Man.
                    But Cotto and his supporters wants to say "I am the Man now, because I won his title while he was gone."

                    To me Cotto is like the New York Knicks when Jordan Left in His Prime, yeah they are the Eastern Conference champions, but
                    who did they beat to get there...????

                    Thats why we have words like CHAMPION and CONTENDER.

                    Yes Cotto has a good resume for a fighter who is an up and comer and who is trying to make a name for himself.

                    But Cotto should be past that point of his career where he is trying to make a name for himself,
                    and he should be at the point of his career where he is validating himself.
                    • That is a huge difference.


                    Cotto understood that, thats why he took the fight with Margarito, to Validate himself.

                    And what did him in is the lack of preparation and training throughout his career cause him to fail against Margarito.
                    • and Also Margarito Showed that unike a contender, a Champion will finish the job when he has opponent hurt.



                    MY POINT IS THIS:

                    When is Cotto going to understand that fighting for vacant titles is not
                    making his situation better, but worst. Because THOSE FIGHTS ARE NOT VALIDATING HIM. BUT RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT HIM.

                    Question like: Why does Cotto all of a sudden want to fight for the WBO belt now that Williams vacant it, Knowing all along Williams was reaDy to fight him.


                    No Matter what you say. Cotto has not validated himself as a great fighter.
                    he has made a name for himself as a good fighter on the cusp of greatness.
                    but he has not validated himself as a great fighter.

                    THIS IS THE PROBLEM

                    he is still trying to make a name for himself instead of validate himself.
                    Last edited by Horus; 11-18-2008, 06:12 PM.

                    Comment


                    • idk why you asking me?

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X
                      TOP