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Originally posted by Horus View PostIt is not a coincidence, it is a pattern...
and it is bull****.
why not clottey
why not williams when he had the belt. that cotto wants now
why not cintron
why not berto
Let's turn this around and let's make it about Floyd
why not Margarito?
why not Cotto?
why not any legitimate welterweight who could have given him a fight?
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Horus's problem is, he puts too much emphasis on belts and titles. A bum can win a title and be champion. Look at Baldomir for example. So because he had a title when Floyd fought him, and Shane didnt have one when Cotto faced him, that makes Baldomir better than Shane?
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Originally posted by BMWM3P View PostLet's turn this around and let's make it about Floyd
why not Margarito?
why not Cotto?
why not any legitimate welterweight who could have given him a fight?
you where we both promise to answer direct questions...no rants
just direct answers....
Why does Cotto always fights for vacant belts, and never fights the champions
for those belts?
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THIS A SERIOUS QUESTION THAT NEED A SERIOUS ANSWER....???
1.Ok Guys, Straight up why has the only time Cotto ever won a belt, it has been for a vacant title?
First title:
~ vacant WBC International light welterweight title ~
vs. Cesar Bazan ( CONTENDER) Previous Best Win:Mauro Lucero
Second title:
~ vacant WBO NABO light welterweight title ~
vs. Rocky Martinez ( CONTENDER) Previous Best Win:Javier Carmona
Third title:
~ vacant WBO light welterweight title ~
vs.Kelson Pinto ( CONTENDER) Previous Best Win: Richard Savage
Fourth Title:
~ vacant WBA welterweight title ~
vs.Carlos Quintana (CONTENDER) Previous Best Win: Joel Julio
Where are the champions on that list?
Cotto fights all Medium RISK - Medium Reward fighters
EXCEPT ONE TIME, AND HE GOT HIS ASS BEAT..! (MARGARITO)
Their is a big difference between beating a CURRENT CHAMPION for his belt.
and beating a fellow contender for a belt.
Thats why we have words like CHAMPION and CONTENDER....
and Cotto always fights contenders for his belts...
He has never had to beat a CHAMPION for his belt.
Cotto has never had to take away something from somebody who earned it.
Cotto Flaws....Of Getting HIT alot , and wasting a lot of punches, Is a flaw you can not afford to have against The Elite Fighters And ESPECIALLY (CHAMPIONS)....., THATS WHY COTTO AVOIDS FIGHTING PRIME FIGHTERS(CHAMPIONS) FOR THEIR BELTS... AND FIGHT BULL**** FIGHTERS.. FOR VACANT TITLES.
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Originally posted by Horus View Postif you answer my Cotto question i will be happy to get into this discussion with
you where we both promise to answer direct questions...no rants
just direct answers....
Why does Cotto always fights for vacant belts, and never fights the champions
for those belts?
Its obvious Cotto is not in charge of his own career.
Its up to Bob Arum to decide who he fights
So you question shoud be directed towards Arum and not cotto
perfect example When Floyd was with Arum that is when he was fighting the Castillos the Corrales fights
he became his own promoter and then the hand picked least risk most money fights started
does it make sense?
I thought so
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The facts that you always take the time to make these Cotto threads and hate on Cotto truly reveals your obsession. Why take all the time to do these things? Cotto is clearly controling your life. Dont let Cotto control your life, you must control your life. I think you need help.....
Cotto beat Quintana. Its the same as if he beat Quintana after Quintana beat Williams for a world title. He still beat Quintana for a world title, Quintana was clearly championship material because he beat the guy who beat Margarito for a title.
There is so many way to look at this **** man and your all caught up in your own little world of Cotto hatred. Try to look at things different. Maybe you will enjoy life more.
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Originally posted by RTS View PostThe facts that you always take the time to make these Cotto threads and hate on Cotto truly reveals your obsession. Why take all the time to do these things? Cotto is clearly controling your life. Dont let Cotto control your life, you must control your life. I think you need help.....
Cotto beat Quintana. Its the same as if he beat Quintana after Quintana beat Williams for a world title. He still beat Quintana for a world title, Quintana was clearly championship material because he beat the guy who beat Margarito for a title.
There is so many way to look at this **** man and your all caught up in your own little world of Cotto hatred. Try to look at things different. Maybe you will enjoy life more.
and a degree from the USC. guy i have a life. lol
but this is boxing, this is a sport in which i love my own life. I am no different for any other fan. As a matter of fact I wrote a thread about this very subject.
CLICK HERE FOR THE BEST THREAD YOU CAN EVER READ.
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Originally posted by Chuckguy View PostMan bro you are fixated on belts and are sounding pretty ****** right now
Its obvious Cotto is not in charge of his own career.
Its up to Bob Arum to decide who he fights
So you question shoud be directed towards Arum and not cotto
perfect example When Floyd was with Arum that is when he was fighting the Castillos the Corrales fights
he became his own promoter and then the hand picked least risk most money fights started
does it make sense?
I thought so
Listen Great Fighters all have a couple things in common.
1. Ambition
2. Heart
3. Ego
4. Sense of history
This is Cotto fault to this extent, he has to do with Oscar did to bob arum and leave if Bob doesnt make the fight that doesnt make you better than what your are.
He has to do with Floyd did to bob arum and leave if Bob doesnt make the fight that doesnt make you better than what your are..
Oscar and Floyd both knew and Know that great fighters just do not Toe the line, and fight whoever they put in front of them.
all great fighter fighters have a sense of history.
and WhEn is cotto going to understand that fighting for vacant titles is not
making his situation better, but worst. Because THOSE FIGHTS ARE NOT VALIDATING HIM. BUT RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT HIM.
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