What will Calzaghe be most remembered for?

[Kris Silver]

Reed man come on. The SMW division is not a pass through division. Some Americans like Jones, Toney and Hopkins may have not spent most of their time their or even avoided it, but that can recieve as much criticism as vice versa.

Eubank, Benn, Collins, Calzaghe, Kessler, it's a decent division. Perhaps just not enough long term successful Americans in it to recieve that much coverage or recognition for it. But it is.

[S A M U R A I]

Waiting 10 years until all the best Middleweights had either stepped up or become damaged?

Holding on to the paper WBO belt for years un-unified?

Beating shot legends?

Slapping his way to an unjust win over Hopkins?

Having an incoherent moron for a father?

Calling English fans cowards after being born in Hammersmith?

I could go on????

Don't go on. Unless you want to make a fool of yourself, of course.


Interesting how you flip information around, such as "calling English fans cowards". And when did this happen? When he expressed dislike for certain fans from another country when they spat on him while he was battering their man Delaney? I mean, what do you expect? What would YOU do if you were being spat on just because you came from elsewhere... sit down and have a cup of tea with them?

Was Hopkins shot when he was smashing Pavlik to bits?

Middleweights who stepped up or become damaged... When? Like Jones, who's fought at heavyweight as well as middleweight and was last seen knocking down a blown up welterweight called Tito?



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[Kid McCoy]

To answer your sig he has to beat a legitimate champion.
He needs to fight someone here in the states and not pick on the elder
I think he is a very good fighter , crafty and awkward.
I just want to see how he would handle a younger guy like a Taylor, AA, Dawson or a older guy in Johnson.

And if he happened to beat those guys, Taylor, AA and Dawson would be dismissed as "no good anyway" and Johnson as "another shot 40-year old".

[THE REED]

And if he happened to beat those guys, Taylor, AA and Dawson would be dismissed as "no good anyway" and Johnson as "another shot 40-year old".

taylor is on a comeback trail.. so ur right

aa is a middleweight so ur right

dawson is the actual LHW champ - he would get a TON of credit

johnson IS 40, so ur right

[King_Lukas]

Don't go on. Unless you want to make a fool of yourself, of course.


Interesting how you flip information arond, such as "calling English fans cowards". And when did this happen? When he expressed dislike for certain fans from another country when they spat on him while he was battering their man Delaney? I mean, what do you expect? What would YOU do if you were being spat on just because you came from elsewhere?

PS: Was Hopkins shot when he was smashing Pavlik to bits?

Im not flipping anything, there are roughly 49-50million people in England, Im gueessing we were all there then spitting at Joe by your logic, because if not then thats one almighty piece of generalisation.

He said that **** when his boy Enzo Mac got sparked out by Haye, and in case you didnt notice he was BORN here in England?

I was referring to the likes of Eubank and Jones, those two were shot, the wins dont do a lot for me, I believe Bernard is far from shot and deserves a rematch from that dodgey split decision.

Why as well when anyone criticizes Joes career do we get aggressive comments like your post anyway, can we not debate and all get along

[C.J.Mak]

Waiting 10 years until all the best Middleweights had either stepped up or become damaged?

Holding on to the paper WBO belt for years un-unified?

Beating shot legends?

Slapping his way to an unjust win over Hopkins?

Having an incoherent moron for a father?

Calling English fans cowards after being born in Hammersmith?

I could go on????

The WBO belt isn't a paper title,Un-unified yes but so what?
Hopkins also took years to unify the Middleweight divison,they both did it eventually.

Bernard isn't shot,Calzaghe beat him fair and square.
He fought while while Bernard spent most of his time holding,headbutting,throwing ten or less punches a round and faking low blows.

He got beat by Calzaghe get over it.

[King_Lukas]

The WBO belt isn't a paper title

He got beat by Calzaghe get over it.

Yes it is

No he didnt, you get over it

[S A M U R A I]

Im not flipping anything, there are roughly 49-50million people in England, Im gueessing we were all there then spitting at Joe by your logic, because if not then thats one almighty piece of generalisation.

You are the one generalizing. You said "he called English fans cowards" as though he called all English fans cowards, which is not true. He called the English fans of Delaney who spat at him cowards, and I agree with him. I would have called them ****ing scumbags. What I was saying to you is stop generalizing, making out as though he said that about all his English fans, and flipping information around to make it seem like something it's not. Joe says regularly that he loves his UK fans, and he said this again after he fought Jones.

He said that **** when his boy Enzo Mac got sparked out by Haye, and in case you didnt notice he was BORN here in England?

I was referring to the likes of Eubank and Jones, those two were shot, the wins dont do a lot for me, I believe Bernard is far from shot and deserves a rematch from that dodgey split decision.

Why as well when anyone criticizes Joes career do we get aggressive comments like your post anyway, can we not debate and all get along

Eubank was shot? Are you on crack? Eubank gave Joe his hardest fight to date.

And no, we can't get along like adults until you post some mature comments rather than twisting information to make you seem like you have any valid arguments.



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[Chuckguy]

And if he happened to beat those guys, Taylor, AA and Dawson would be dismissed as "no good anyway" and Johnson as "another shot 40-year old".

Maybe but not in my opinon. I know it doesnt matter what I have to say but that is how I feel. Plus I do think he has a good chance of beating Dawson and Taylor and AA . I think Johnson with his chin and style would give him the most problems cause he too ahs a great chin comes forward and throws a **** load of punches.
I really wish Cal would fight 2 more fights against the best and win too.

[Kris Silver]

Maybe but not in my opinon. I know it doesnt matter what I have to say but that is how I feel. Plus I do think he has a good chance of beating Dawson and Taylor and AA . I think Johnson with his chin and style would give him the most problems cause he too ahs a great chin comes forward and throws a **** load of punches.
I really wish Cal would fight 2 more fights against the best and win too.

Calzaghe has a tough chin, so he won't KO Joe. Calzaghe also doesn't KO himself so a tough chin is irrelevant. Calzaghe is well known and transparent about preferring fighters being aggressive and coming to him, so that suites him.

You literally know nothing.