Roys Compubox Numbers

[Jumpman23]

interesting post i found on some other boxing board


It's Compubox time again!

Again: it's just a statistic, hardly an info to judge a fight or fighter solely on it... but could be useful to see a statistic side of it and maybe find some interesting facts.



Early in the thread we made a conclusion that despite cutting each others' stats in the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight, the old fox' stats vs. Pavlik were just as good as back in the Tito days, meaning he still produced very good numbers despite his age.

This time, let's have a look at Roy Jones' latest stats alongside with his fight vs. Tito, the first Tarver fight and the Ruiz fight, so we can see a prime, a post-HW, a post KOs and the latest stats of the former P4P great.

Jones' number of punches thrown and landed: Ruiz 424/134, Tarver I 424/111, Tarver III 324/85, Tito 482/172, Calzaghe 475/159

-As you can see, Jones' stats were cut down after the KNOCKOUTS and not after moving down from HW. 400+ punches was the average of the prime Jones' in 12 round fights, he never was the Calzaghe type of busy fighter, just was more accurate and was caught with less punches. He threw the exact numbers vs. Ruiz and Tarver (I). The punches he took shows the difference: Jones was outlanded for the first time in the 1st Tarver fight, but still managed to pull it off...
-Roy Jones became guy shy as they say, and this is clear in the 3rd Tarver fight: he only threw 324 and landed just 85. Guess what, he lost that fight
-however, vs. Tito he did not only return to the 400+ category, but he threw more than vs. Ruiz, almost 500 punches, and landed 172, more than vs. Ruiz. Of course: pick a former WW, bring him out of a 2-year retirement, and you'll look good and land as many punches as you want - target practice! Well, here comes the shocker:
-Roy threw just as many punches vs. Calzaghe, a former SMW champ, the active and actual top P4P-er and a betting favorite. But Roy not only threw as many, but landed almost as many: 159 to be exact, mainly counter shots. Of course, as always, he was so badly outnumbered, that it didn't LOOK like he threw 475 and landed 159. But he did
-Roy threw AND landed more than vs. Ruiz, and this is even better: Roy threw and landed more than Bernard on Calzaghe: 475 to 468, 159 to 127! Roy was also more accurate than Hopkins, and landed close to the Tito and Ruiz percentages (32% vs. Ruiz, 36% vs. Tito, 33% vs. Calzaghe)
-as in the case of the Hopkins fight, Calzaghe landed the most punches on Jones ever (344/985, 35%). And as always, Joe's stats show how successfully Hopkins was able to cut down Joe's stats, as he was back at the close to 1000 category this time (and Hopkis was back at his own numbers after the Calzaghe fight)

-altogether with the stunning output of Calzaghe, gun shy Roy was still able to do his average of years back, and landed just 14 punches less than Kessler, meaning that Roy was the 2nd most succesful on the landing category in Calzaghe fights counted by Compubox
-stats show how the numbers were cut down after the KO losses and came back in the Tito and Calzaghe fights, were Roy did look more confident - in fact, despite the huge difference in quality and stlye between Calzaghe and Tito, Roy still managed to top the Ruiz average in both fights



These are just compubox stats, I don't want to make any conclusions, just making a simple comparison. Do what you like with the numbers. I just wanted to show you some interesting statistics, and IMO there are some...

[superchamp]

Roy's problems since 2003 have not been throwing and landing punches, although his connect % has gone down.

His problems have been not being able to avoid punches and giving his opponents more opportunities to throw them because his legs and reflexes are shot.

From CompuboxOnline.com:

In the 23 fights tracked by CompuBox that ended with his decision victory over John Ruiz, Jones averaged 44.3 punches per round overall with 45.9 percent accuracy while throwing 30.2 power shots that connected at an astonishing 55.1 percent rate. His opponents could only muster 37.1 punches per round with 26.9 percent accuracy overall and 20.7 power shots per round at a 33.8 percent rate. The plus-19 in overall percentage and the plus-21.3 in power shots show why Jones built a 49-1 (38 KO) record to that point.

The wheels began to come off once he agreed to fight mandatory challenger Antonio Tarver for the first time in November 2003, shedding 24 pounds from his in-ring weight against Ruiz and struggling to a majority decision against the gifted and fired-up “Magic Man.” CompuBox has tracked all seven fights during this part of Jones’ career – a period that resulted in a 4-3 (0 KO) record – and the numbers illuminate the differences between the Jones of his prime and the man who is fighting now.

Since beating Ruiz, Jones has averaged 33.6 punches per round overall (10.7 less than before) with 33.4 percent accuracy, 14.4 percentage points less than in his prime. He now averages 10.3 jabs per round, 3.8 fewer than before and 1.8 connects, 1.9 fewer than at his best. His 23.2 power attempts and 9.5 connects are seven and 7.1 less than before respectively, and while Jones’ power connect rate of 40.7 percent is still very respectable, it is still nearly 15 percent below his prime years.

His opponents, however, post dramatically better numbers these days because Jones no longer has the supernatural speed to inhibit them from launching their attacks. Their 49.8 attempts per round are 12.7 more than during Jones’ prime and the connect gap has turned from a plus-10.3 to a minus-2.7 from Jones’ perspective. The 0.7-jab connect edge Jones had at his best is now a two-jab deficit and the 9.6 power connect gap for Jones is a 0.6-punch deficit.

The most Roy had ever been hit pre Tarver I was 132 times by Hopkins in 1993, and usually much less than that, with all his other opponents averaging single digit connects per round.

Pre Ruiz opponents' average punches landed per round -- 9/37 (26%)

Pre Ruiz opponents averaged a 12 round pace of: 110/444 (26%)

Since that time, Roy has been hit:

Tarver I -- 120/504 (24%)
Johnson -- 118/437 (27%) in 8 rounds, on pace for 177/655
Tarver III -- 158/620 (25%)
Ajamu -- 141/499 (28%)
Hanshaw -- 281/867 (32%)
Trinidad -- 160/552 (29%)
Calzaghe -- 344/985 (35%)

Every opponent since Ruiz has thrown and landed above the average, and as the years have past, they have thrown and landed more and at higher and higher percentages.