Wladimir Klitschko is way over rated.

[larryx]

Haye only has 22 fights and he already unified a division , what the **** has Wlad done since his lose to Sanders, beating up a light heavyweight chris byrd for his title and a ***** ibragimov

bryd was a career heavyweight and the longest titlest in recent years..wlad has won titles and unified the division since losing to sanders...you sound real bitter my friend

[Fidayeen]

no sir i got sense i never rated miranda..but facts are fact..wlad has cleaned out a division and abraham got a belt that was stripped from taylor..he is the definition of a paper champ

don't even mention taylor, he was scared of miranda. Did you see that interview when he found out that pavlik had beaten miranda. He was glad he didn't have to step in the ring with the panther.

[Fidayeen]

bryd was a career heavyweight and the longest titlest in recent years..wlad has won titles and unified the division since losing to sanders...you sound real bitter my friend

just wait and see, either povetkin or haye is gonna KO Wlad

[larryx]

don't even mention taylor, he was scared of miranda. Did you see that interview when he found out that pavlik had beaten miranda. He was glad he didn't have to step in the ring with the panther.

what your point??im not a taylor fan either

[larryx]

just wait and see, either povetkin or haye is gonna KO Wlad

lol....haye has a shot..povetkin will get battered

[Fidayeen]

what your point??im not a taylor fan either

that miranda was the most feared middle weight at that time and abraham beat him like it was nothing

[The Hammer]

no sir i got sense i never rated miranda..but facts are fact..wlad has cleaned out a division and abraham got a belt that was stripped from taylor..he is the definition of a paper champ

That's correct.

Wlad has fought everybody in the division worth fighting, if the fight can be made. Abraham has never faced the two best: Sturm and Pavlik. Some of Abraham's voluntary defenses have been weak, like Demers, who isn't even a top 25 middleweight. Wlad used his voluntary defense to unite with Ibragimov.

[Fidayeen]

lol....haye has a shot..povetkin will get battered

if they give povetkin some more time to get experience he will beat Wlad. But not right now

[larryx]

that miranda was the most feared middle weight at that time and abraham beat him like it was nothing

he was the biggest mouth at middleweight

[The Hammer]

that miranda was the most feared middle weight at that time and abraham beat him like it was nothing

Pavlik easily beat Miranda too, and then lost to a 43 year old man.

Many think Abraham lost the first fight with Miranda.