Had Roy not gotten Cut? How would be have done

[rj_ct]

he was behind and losing momentum when he got cut. same outcome.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Yup, he was choosing to not hit Joe and instead be hit. Genius.

Could it be he was trying to hit him as you can clearly see he did several times. That firstly leaves your arrogant statement invalid. Furthermore that he sometimes didn't continue to because he in his own words "couldn't get at him" as most can't, because he's such an elusive target.

It would not have been much different without the cut, he was fading and only just keeping up with Joe as was Hopkins and we know what happened there. Roy could have KO'd Tito late on but didn't, it's unlikely he'd choose to get hit all nite then look to KO a tough chinned guy, when your own stamina is way worse so it hinders you more then your opponent.

I second what was posted above Roy did infact try to hit Joe but what puzzled me so was when Joe would lean his haed on Roy's forearms and Roy would not fire and uppercut. Not fire odd nothing. The only thing I can think is that Roy couldn't asee very well with the blood all over his face. Seeing how Roy has never been cut in a fight and that was a nasty cut it defintely affected his performance. Whether he could have beat him if he had not been cut well we will never know. To speculate I would say unless he got in a good left hook or straqight right hand the straight right he had not been able to land all night I might add. the straight right that he attempted to land and was countered n all night I might add. I don't see it going any other way. it might just have not looked as bad if he were not bleeding like a stuck pig the last 5 or 6 rounds....Lefty

[S A M U R A I]

I still think Roy loses but i think his plan was to use the style he used against Tito which was to cover up and try and walk Calzaghe down. Even Emanuel Steward thought that was the style Roy would use. In the 3rd round he was using it and coming forward while covering up. Even though Calzaghe was throwing combos many of the shots were blocked. I think Roy planned on trying to wear Calzaghe down with body shots while coming forward with his hands up, but once he got cut he abandoned that tactic and style.

Jones had lost 5 or possibly 6 rounds by the time he got cut.

The outcome would have been no different if he wasn't cut.



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[S A M U R A I]

what puzzled me so was when Joe would lean his haed on Roy's forearms and Roy would not fire and uppercut. Not fire odd nothing. The only thing I can think is that Roy couldn't asee very well with the blood all over his face.

He did that before Roy was cut.



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[RichCCFC]

I actually think Roy tried harder after he got cut.

[Kris Silver]

Joe was sticking his chin under Roy's from the start of the fight, as soon as R1 possibly infact. Roy did often try and land but it was so close it's awkward to, plus as Roy recognised pre fight, Calzaghes the fasted guy I'd have faced. So Joe had the quick reflexes and reactions to get out of there as soon as Roy did throw. And Roy did throw especially after a few times, but he wasn't quick enough usually so timed it better at other times on the whole. He did get Joe a few goodens when Joe was doing this. Richie Woodhall commented on one, Joe gave him that one.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

He did that before Roy was cut.

Be honest due I remember him dropping his hands before the cut and both of them doing ******ed dances in front of each other. I was laughing when they were doing that but don't remember him actually leaning his head on the forearms until after Roy was cut. Anyway HBo will be replaying the fight this Saturday I will watch to see what round and if Roy was or was not cut before he did what I am talking about. Either way I like to think Roy couldnt see him because if he just didn't throw a punch in fear of getting hit back then that is really bad....Lefty

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[RayLeonard82]

You're a blind idiot if you believe Roy gave his all against Joe. He was content to sit right in front of Joe and keep his hands up and not even attempt to land punches when Joe was sticking his chin right up at him. If that ain't milking your fans for money I don't know what is.

It wasn't as pathetic as his 3rd fight with Tarver but it was close sans the first round.

Actually when Roy came forward in a aggressive manner with his hands up he tried to block and counter to the body and got caught with 3 straight shots back. One of the members on here has a clip in there signature of when Calzaghe stuck his chin out and Roy attempted 3 hooks and he looked as slow as 1994 George Foreman on those hooks. So when Calzaghe stuck his chin out, Roy was to slow to reach him.

When your old and your reflexes are shot its not easy to just say heeeey hit him when your not confident in your speed anymore.

Might as well say Ray Leonard quit against Terry Norris. The more aggressive Ray got the closer he was to getting knocked out so he just started surviving. Roy was still coming forward but his reflexes are just gone. He had a hard time landing punches even when he tried.

Watch the end of the 1st round after he stuns Calzaghe. Look at how slow he looks when he tried to open up.

Scroll up and look at Ricky's signature on this page. Roy did try and throw punches when Joe was right there, but look at how slow Roy is.