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  • ßringer
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    #11
    When Ali's license was stripped it was Joe Frazier who testified before Congress on Muhammad's behalf to have his license reinstated so that Ali could earn a living.

    When Ali was broke and barely making a living doing public speeches to support his family, it was Frazier who gave him money out of his own pocket to help Muhammad support his family.

    Those are both two very well known, and very well documented facts.

    As to their relationship, they've made up several times and both have said many, many good things about the other.

    On the other hand, Joe is still very sore about the mean spirited things Ali said about him throughout his entire career. and doesn't seem to have fully gotten over it.

    Couple that with the fact that everytime a reporter wants to interview Joe, all they want to talk about is Muhammad, paying no attention to the fact that he's a top 10 Heavyweight ATG himself, and you really can't blame Joe.

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    • LEFTYGUNZZ
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      #12
      Originally posted by The_Bringer
      When Ali's license was stripped it was Joe Frazier who testified before Congress on Muhammad's behalf to have his license reinstated so that Ali could earn a living.

      When Ali was broke and barely making a living doing public speeches to support his family, it was Frazier who gave him money out of his own pocket to help Muhammad support his family.

      Those are both two very well known, and very well documented facts.

      As to their relationship, they've made up several times and both have said many, many good things about the other.

      On the other hand, Joe is still very sore about the mean spirited things Ali said about him throughout his entire career. and doesn't seem to have fully gotten over it.

      Couple that with the fact that everytime a reporter wants to interview Joe, all they want to talk about is Muhammad, paying no attention to the fact that he's a top 10 Heavyweight ATG himself, and you really can't blame Joe.
      Msoking Joe Frazier ranked Top 5 in my book. He is what Tyson would have been if tyson had half the heart and determination of Joe. Sucks to be in someones shadow and only get mentiond when the other is mentioned first. But Muhammads personality and the use if words over shadows Joe in those times and in history forever and there aint nothing Joe can do about it. Holding on to hate take alt of time and energy and although I truely feel that Ali went over board with alot of the things he said and did during those promotions and selling their fights I don't agree with spewing you hate in public some 40 years later. Then again I am not Joe and I never had someone embarass me in pbulic and tarnish my reputation like that so I guess i should just shut my mouth and not speak on it,.....Lefty

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      • The Gully Gad
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        #13
        Originally posted by Pretty Boy1
        I'm trying to download it but I don't know how recent it is. I always thought they were ok but I heard Frazier still resents Ali. Maybe they've buried the hatchet since!
        Yeh i watched it yonks ago mate couldnt tell ya when it was made..

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        • Testdead
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          #14
          Frazier hates Ali i see an interview last year where he said he won the fight but i ****ed him up he cant walk or even talk.

          He also has a message on his phone that says "Look at Ali see him yer that was me"

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          • Uchi Deshi
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            #15
            Originally posted by The_Bringer
            When Ali's license was stripped it was Joe Frazier who testified before Congress on Muhammad's behalf to have his license reinstated so that Ali could earn a living.

            When Ali was broke and barely making a living doing public speeches to support his family, it was Frazier who gave him money out of his own pocket to help Muhammad support his family.

            Those are both two very well known, and very well documented facts.

            As to their relationship, they've made up several times and both have said many, many good things about the other.

            On the other hand, Joe is still very sore about the mean spirited things Ali said about him throughout his entire career. and doesn't seem to have fully gotten over it.

            Couple that with the fact that everytime a reporter wants to interview Joe, all they want to talk about is Muhammad, paying no attention to the fact that he's a top 10 Heavyweight ATG himself, and you really can't blame Joe.
            That's an excellent summary of what happened, and the current relationship. They will always be linked, and Joe is still resentful of Ali.

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