basically this thread was started because roy achieved beating john ruiz as a champ to become a hweight champ himself, joe would never be able to slap john ruiz because his lower body was never anywhere close to roys , roy is great with legwork, calzaghe somewhat is but he will get popped on the face in the first round by a true big man and he will not get up from these type of big hits, ruiz power in 1st round is alot harder than hops and jones
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