Who would beat Hopkins from 160-175?

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  • Ryn0
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    Who would beat Hopkins from 160-175?

    I just want to get a measure of how would be able to beat Hopkins at this stage in his career keeping in mind he just dismantled Pavlik and almost beat Calzaghe.

    Side Note: This has NOTHING to do with Joe Calzaghe before some start praising and/or claiming this is a nuthugging thread.

    Personally I think Calzaghe, Dawson and Taylor are the only ones that have a chance I'm not sure they'd beat him. I know Calzaghe CAN beat him but I'm not entirely sure whether he would in a rematch.
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    Obviously Taylor given that he has already beaten him twice. And obviously Joe also.

    I would also give Dawson a very good shot.

    Other than that I would favour BHop by a reasonable margin over everybody else. Kessler may give him a very good fight though.

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    • j.razor
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      Hopkins hasnt lost since da Roy Jones fight...joe, chad or taylor cannot beat B-Hop.

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      • larryx
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        father time

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        • Ryn0
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          Originally posted by larryx
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          Yea, because that what I was asking when I said "at this stage"

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          • Kris Silver
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            I'm really not sure Dawson or Kessler at this stage, have the experience or ring intelligence and tactics to grind out a decision against Hopkins. They just look too confused faced with a relentless experienced guy. Kessler in Joe, Dawson in Johnson. Possibly in a few years though.

            I'd say both Taylor and Calzaghe both roughly the same. I think both would beat him prime for prime actually, less so Taylor - now doubt I'll get shot for saying that but let's actually back it up...

            Hopkins biggest weapons against those guys and in particular Calzaghe, was experience, immensley good boxing brain, tactics, defence, countering and slickness. He always had those things but to a greater extent when he faced them. So prime for prime he might be more active but with those attributes slightly lesser I think it'd favour Taylor slightly, certainly Calzaghe more.

            A surprising one might be AA. He covers up well, is as tough as nails, a little un predictable and could lash out and change the fight catching Hopkins in a one off like no other could. Unlikely though, just he's that un predictable with it even Hopkins could get caught out.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Ryn0
              I just want to get a measure of how would be able to beat Hopkins at this stage in his career keeping in mind he just dismantled Pavlik and almost beat Calzaghe.

              Side Note: This has NOTHING to do with Joe Calzaghe before some start praising and/or claiming this is a nuthugging thread.

              Personally I think Calzaghe, Dawson and Taylor are the only ones that have a chance I'm not sure they'd beat him. I know Calzaghe CAN beat him but I'm not entirely sure whether he would in a rematch.
              Besides Calzaghe and Taylor Obviously,
              Kessler would give even an A game Hopkins problems, and Hopkins would flat out lose if he didn't hold every 10 seconds.
              Arthur would be tough too, I'm surprised no one has mentioned him.

              Dawson would be schooled by Hopkins.
              Last edited by Underdog82; 11-11-2008, 04:54 PM.

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                Originally posted by KrisSilver
                I'm really not sure Dawson or Kessler at this stage, have the experience or ring intelligence and tactics to grind out a decision against Hopkins. They just look too confused faced with a relentless experienced guy. Kessler in Joe, Dawson in Johnson. Possibly in a few years though.

                I'd say both Taylor and Calzaghe both roughly the same. I think both would beat him prime for prime actually, less so Taylor - now doubt I'll get shot for saying that but let's actually back it up...

                Hopkins biggest weapons against those guys and in particular Calzaghe, was experience, immensley good boxing brain, tactics, defence, countering and slickness. He always had those things but to a greater extent when he faced them. So prime for prime he might be more active but with those attributes slightly lesser I think it'd favour Taylor slightly, certainly Calzaghe more.
                It would be a deserved shooting.

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                • Dynamite Kid
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                  Hopkins has not suddenly turned into Henry Armstrong he will still get tired its just that the Pavlik fight was not a hard paced fight and Pavlik stood infront of him not punching and offering no defence what so ever

                  Hopkins will still tire and lose to most of those guys imo allthough im not sure any of those guys would beat Hopkins in his prime

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                  • Ryn0
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                    Originally posted by Terrible...
                    Hopkins has not suddenly turned into Henry Armstrong he will still get tired its just that the Pavlik fight was not a hard paced fight and Pavlik stood infront of him not punching and offering no defence what so ever

                    Hopkins will still tire and lose to most of those guys imo allthough im not sure any of those guys would beat Hopkins in his prime
                    He would lose to Kessler, Abraham, Sturm, Mundine, Bute, Andrade, Froch, Taylor etc?

                    I doubt it, I still think even at this age he'd beat all those guys maybe even Taylor at 175.

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