Once and For All...Sugar Ray Robinson is the Best Welter Ever!

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  • Italian250
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    Once and For All...Sugar Ray Robinson is the Best Welter Ever!

    Why one can say anyone BUT Sugar Ray Robinson is the best welter either is too young to know anything about him or too ignorant to understand what he accomplished. The man won the world welterweight title in 1946 in his 75th fight. Prior to winning the title he was widely considered the uncrowned ww champ after beating Henry Armstrong, Sammy Angott three times, Fritzie Zivic twice, and Jake Lamotta 4 times. He not only held the welterweight title for 5 years. He also won 50 fights (including defenses) and lost NONE IN those 5 years. What fighter nowadays fights 10 ****ing times per year. NO great welter after him could compare.....period!
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    Originally posted by Italian250
    Why one can say anyone BUT Sugar Ray Robinson is the best welter either is too young to know anything about him or too ignorant to understand what he accomplished. The man won the world welterweight title in 1946 in his 75th fight. Prior to winning the title he was widely considered the uncrowned ww champ after beating Henry Armstrong, Sammy Angott three times, Fritzie Zivic twice, and Jake Lamotta 4 times. He not only held the welterweight title for 5 years. He also won 50 fights (including defenses) and lost NONE IN those 5 years. What fighter nowadays fights 10 ****ing times per year. NO great welter after him could compare.....period!


    When Ray was in Germany, I believe he fought something like 8 times in one day or something *crazy* thats more then what people fight in 2-3 years.


    Ray isnt the greatest welterweight of all time, but the GREATEST fighter of all time...Noone compares to Ray in his prime.

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    • Italian250
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      #3
      Originally posted by spinksjinx

      Ray isnt the greatest welterweight of all time, but the GREATEST fighter of all time...Noone compares to Ray in his prime.

      Ray is BOTH the greatest Welter ANG greatest PFP fighter of ALL TIME. Period.

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      • skillet54
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        Originally posted by Italian250
        Why one can say anyone BUT Sugar Ray Robinson is the best welter either is too young to know anything about him or too ignorant to understand what he accomplished. The man won the world welterweight title in 1946 in his 75th fight. Prior to winning the title he was widely considered the uncrowned ww champ after beating Henry Armstrong, Sammy Angott three times, Fritzie Zivic twice, and Jake Lamotta 4 times. He not only held the welterweight title for 5 years. He also won 50 fights (including defenses) and lost NONE IN those 5 years. What fighter nowadays fights 10 ****ing times per year. NO great welter after him could compare.....period!
        it burns me when i hear some people compare ray leonard to Sugar Ray Robinson!!! there is no comparison. somewhere on this site they have a fantasy fight listed between the two...all ray leonard would do is run...ala the hagler fight...which leonard lost. leonard should have been made to fight a few middleweights that hagler battled with, like
        vito antofuermo and mustafa hamshoo (probably not spelled right)before the hagler christmas gift. sorry to get off topic...Mr. robinson is imo
        the best pfp boxer of all time!!

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        • Loco671
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          agreed 100% Ray Robinson is the greatest boxer ever.

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          • IwatchBoxing
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            Trinidad #1 Welterweight in history!

            Both fighters had long distinguished careers and both of them set a number of records. Trinidad was the longest reigning Welterweight Champion in history, surpassing the mark set by Freddie Cochrane in World War II. Tito made 15 successful defenses during the course a reign that lasted over 6 years. Even though he won the title from the ordinary Maurice Blocker, he made a number of defenses against quality competition

            Ninety-four was definitely the most impressive year of his title reign. He successfully defended his title against Hector Camacho, Yori Boy Campas, and Oba Carr. Combined they entered the ring with a 130-2 record.
            Last edited by IwatchBoxing; 06-29-2005, 12:31 AM.

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            • Bad Intentions
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              #7
              Originally posted by skillet54
              it burns me when i hear some people compare ray leonard to Sugar Ray Robinson!!! there is no comparison. somewhere on this site they have a fantasy fight listed between the two...all ray leonard would do is run...ala the hagler fight...which leonard lost. leonard should have been made to fight a few middleweights that hagler battled with, like
              vito antofuermo and mustafa hamshoo (probably not spelled right)before the hagler christmas gift. sorry to get off topic...Mr. robinson is imo
              the best pfp boxer of all time!!
              They prbally got them as a fantast match up cuz they are both Sugar Ray....And to the other thong about him fighting 10 times in a year i dont think they got paid back then the way they do now..Mayweather probally made as much money vs Gatti than Ray Robinson probally made in 20 fights

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              • Imira
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                What makes Robinson the greatest is that he showed consistency against much more solid competition over a longer career than most losers of today. He faced and defeated every fighting style in the ring. In my opinion, there's not a single welterweight in history that can show Robinson something that he hasn't already shut down at least 4 times over. That's why, no matter what any of these younger "fans" may say, Sugar Ray Robinson is, STILL, pound for pound, the greatest fighter in the history of the sport.

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                • M26
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Imira
                  What makes Robinson the greatest is that he showed consistency against much more solid competition over a longer career than most losers of today. He faced and defeated every fighting style in the ring. In my opinion, there's not a single welterweight in history that can show Robinson something that he hasn't already shut down at least 4 times over. That's why, no matter what any of these younger "fans" may say, Sugar Ray Robinson is, STILL, pound for pound, the greatest fighter in the history of the sport.
                  Hear, hear!!

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                  • Red_Menace
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                    SRR fought Jake LaMotta twice in two or three weeks, with a tune-up in between .... now that is insane. At one point he was 120-1. The guy was rediculously good. He had serious knockout power too.

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