CLEAR conclusion about the Hopkins/Calzaghe/Jones drama !

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  • warp1432
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    #11
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    he deserves getting credit for having their names on his record, but it must be dually noted that bhop has lost 3 or his last 5 fights and RJJ has been KTFO 2x. That means his wins against bhop and rjj does not make him an ATG.
    Bhop is 3 of his last 6 and those 3 wins are way better then those losses to Taylor.

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    • 77Ritchie77
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      #12
      hopkins last 4 - dominate tarver, dominate winky, lose to joe, dominate pavlik... who deserves the credit?

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      • Cuauhtémoc1520
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        #13
        Originally posted by jaycuban
        You are an idot and dont seem to understand what a difference 3, 4 or 5 years make in boxing. This aint baseball boy. Look at most boxing career after 35 and you will see what im talking about, its not the same to get your first lost when you are 28 or 30 than when you are 35. Calzaghe should retire, and retire being know as a great fighter with a lot of respect, but if he never fights again wish I wont blame him for, believe me as times passes he will be forgoten and BHop and RJones will always be talked about as better fighters and all time greats even tought they both lost to Calzaghe.

        No one puts Marciano above Luis my friend.
        The only "Boy" is your punk ass daddy that made your sorry ass. It doesn't matter that he's 3 years younger or in the case of Roy, only 2 years younger.

        HE'S 37 YEARS OLD!! What part of that don't you get? I understand he's younger but he's still past his prime himself, it doens't matter, he won....get over it.

        Respect to Calzaghe and his victories over two of the best in the game.

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        • THE REED
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          #14
          Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
          Stop being a whiney cry baby. Your nonsense would make some sense if Calzaghe was a young man himself.

          Calzaghe is 37 years old! HAhahaha, I mean, he's just "out" of his prime as Jones or Hopkins is.

          I would have loved to see Calzaghe fight these guys a long time ago as well but he's just as old as they are and you can't disscredit what he has done.

          Get over it.
          cal wont be 37 til next march

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          • bsrizpac
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            #15
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            he deserves getting credit for having their names on his record, but it must be dually noted that bhop has lost 3 or his last 5 fights and RJJ has been KTFO 2x. That means his wins against bhop and rjj does not make him an ATG.
            Too much intelligence for nutsuckers.

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            • Cuauhtémoc1520
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              #16
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              cal wont be 37 til next march
              OK, 36 lol.....

              He's still far removed from his prime, just like Jones is.

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              • -Antonio-
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                #17
                I guess you might of missed the Hopkins/Pavlik fight. I think it's available on youtube.

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                • -Antonio-
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                  #18
                  The Hopkins win is still very legit. Fans used to resort to the age argument until Hopkins beat the hell out o Pavlik, so now they give the whole slapper argument.

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                  • THE REED
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                    OK, 36 lol.....

                    He's still far removed from his prime, just like Jones is.
                    nah man, honestly... gatti is SHOT at 35... Vargas SHOT at 33, Morales SHOT at 34-35...

                    EVERYONE is different... at 36, calzaghe is having some of his best performances and wins of his entire career...

                    2 months shy of 40... roy hasnt beaten an elite fighter in 5 years, and been knocked out twice....

                    Joe might be coming out of his prime... but roy hasnt been prime in 5 years... and after watching that fight... he is definitely shot as a fighter...

                    u really cant say... oh, there 3 years apart so its no big deal...


                    some guys are DONE at 34... some are still whoopin ass at 43...

                    everyone has different peaks and primes, has nothing to do with age

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                    • kevtwin
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by jaycuban
                      You are an idot and dont seem to understand what a difference 3, 4 or 5 years make in boxing. This aint baseball boy. Look at most boxing career after 35 and you will see what im talking about, its not the same to get your first lost when you are 28 or 30 than when you are 35. Calzaghe should retire, and retire being know as a great fighter with a lot of respect, but if he never fights again wish I wont blame him for, believe me as times passes he will be forgoten and BHop and RJones will always be talked about as better fighters and all time greats even tought they both lost to Calzaghe.

                      No one puts Marciano above Luis my friend.
                      Youre so so wrong my freind, as time passes by and we all get old, the record boooks wont record the pathetic anti-Calzaghe comments on this forum. The records will show (if he doesnt fight again)

                      Jo Calzaghe 46-0 One of the greatest super middleweights who ruled the division for a decade, unified the titles, moved up to LH and won, then defended the LH title. Calzaghe was honoured by Ring magazine as an HoF boxer and rated as one of the best ever seen.

                      It WONT say "Boxing forums said he was a slapping lucky ****er"

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