IMO Jones and Mayweather same ****, HIT THEM HARD..............

[Vasyl’s dad]

Love that smiley

[MikeBrew328]

again my little NUT HUGGER, this isn't about his CHIN, or who he has won!
READ MY FUC.KING POST AGAIN.................

I did read your post. I know, it's not about "who he has won", but he's been hit hard on multiple occasions in his career, and the record still remains undefeated. He's a natural 135, and fought guys at 147 and of course DLH at 154. And De la hoya hit him hard a few times in that fight, does that mean he's mentally weak????? I had him winning by at least a 116-112 score. So please, give legit examples. Maybe you should BoxRec and Youtube some of his fights. K thanxxxx

[Vasyl’s dad]

I did read your post. I know, it's not about "who he has won", but he's been hit hard on multiple occasions in his career, and the record still remains undefeated. He's a natural 135, and fought guys at 147 and of course DLH at 154. And De la hoya hit him hard a few times in that fight, does that mean he's mentally weak????? I had him winning by at least a 116-112 score. So please, give legit examples. Maybe you should BoxRec and Youtube some of his fights. K thanxxxx

If anything hes a natural welter seeing as how he gains no more than 5 pounds after weigh in.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

Even your OPINION sux!

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If anything hes a natural welter seeing as how he gains no more than 5 pounds after weigh in.

A Natural welter with today's rules comes in at around 160.

[Vasyl’s dad]

A Natural welter with today's rules comes in at around 160.

No, natural welters come into the ring at about 152.

There is nothing natural about gaining over 13pounds in one night.

However, not gaining more than 5 pounds would lead one to believe he is closer to his natural weight than someone gaining 13 in the same time frame.

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No, natural welters come into the ring at about 152.

There is nothing natural about gaining over 13pounds in one night.

However, not gaining more than 5 pounds would lead one to believe he is closer to his natural weight than someone gaining 13 in the same time frame.

No, a natural welter is someone who fights comfortably at welter and would finds it uncomfortable to fight at 140. Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Berto, Cintron are natural welters (at least for now).

Mayweather weighs 150 on fight night after 10 years of weight training----> Not a natural welter.

EDIT: we are talking about fighters in the era of weighins 30h before the fight, not people walking on the streets or fighters from before the 80s

[RisAri0]

Floyd has the ability to see the punches coming so even if he gets rocked and stunned he can still expect the oncoming punches. He won't commit to a power shot because there's a great chance he'll get caught, so instead he pot shots... u'd have to get real lucky to catch him clean...

[AceNguyen]

No, natural welters come into the ring at about 152.

There is nothing natural about gaining over 13pounds in one night.

However, not gaining more than 5 pounds would lead one to believe he is closer to his natural weight than someone gaining 13 in the same time frame.

The strange thing with Floyd is that even when he was a 130 fighter, he rarely put on more than 6 pounds after the weigh-in. He either hates how weight-draining affects him or doesn't have the body to do it. I think he's a natural 140 guy, he could easily make that weight.

I gotta ask, are you saying that none of today's top welters are "natural" welterweights? Cotto, Margarito, Berto, Clottey, Williams, Cintron all put on 13+ pounds regularly.

[KingArthur]

The claims by the threadstarter are kind of ridiculous. The Claims are easily proven to be false. The Mayweather JLC fight wasnt a case of Floyd being in trouble because he got hit hard. JLC was able to make it close because he went to body and landed well. The Oscar fight wasnt close, nor did he appear to ever hurt Floyd. As far as Roy goes after Tarver caught him in the 2nd fight he has never been able to pull the trigger again and covers up a lot more. This was the case in the Tarver 3, Hanshaw, and Tito, fights. The KO changed him but I dont think that weakness. He was a fighter that had athletic ability in the place of solid defense. When his reflexes were not the same he changed as fighter and became vulnerable.

Thank you for proving what I was trying to say.