IMO Jones and Mayweather same ****, HIT THEM HARD..............

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  • Flawless 2
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    #21
    Originally posted by The_Executioner
    Idk about Roy but how does Floyd not have heart? He's fought plenty of fights wit ****ed up hands. He beat Carlos Hernandez wit a broken hand. He fought Castillo the first time with a torn rotator cuff and still won. He took some good shots from Oscar and didn't budge.
    Thank you....

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    • shynequasiog22
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      #22
      Originally posted by KingArthur
      when was a prime RJJ "ruffed up" as he was against Calzaghe?.?.?.?.......????

      NEVER, so neither of us know, but I starting to THINK he was finess all along
      Prime Roy was never ruffed up because there wasn't anybody that could rough him up. His movement wouldn't let that happen.

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      • KingArthur
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        #23
        Originally posted by Flawless 2
        Can you score a boxing match. He clearly beat Oscar without any problems. You are basing this on round 12,where he took Oscar best shot and smiled. ATG is not based on mental toughness but who you beat. Plain and simple. How is JMM mental toughness when he LOST to Pacman
        See your basing it on who you won and who you lost to, NO. Can you handle that inital shock! In the great words of the KING of mental toughness Bernard Hopkins!

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          #24
          Originally posted by KingArthur
          Watch that fight again, watch it. YES he did budge, yes he did. Watch it again because I was watching yesterday. Yes he did budge, and DLH STOPPED using the jab, thats the only reason he lost, lost a VERY CLOSE SD I may add.

          BTW: I'm a Mayweather and RJJ fan, I just wanted to talk about this because I have noticed this from these two!
          Well yeah he lost a close decision. I agree. It was competitive. If you define budge by stunned/hurt I disagree. I don't recall Oscar ever buckling Floyd. He caught him wit a big shot at the end of the 10th or 11th and Floyd kept moving. At the end he landed the left hook and Floyd kept trading. And in Floyd's defense Oscar's a bigger stronger fighter.

          Some say Oscar just stopped using the jab. I'm sure Floyd made an adjustment. Oscar didn't jus stop throwing it.

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            #25
            Originally posted by KingArthur
            See your basing it on who you won and who you lost to, NO. Can you handle that inital shock! In the great words of the KING of mental toughness Bernard Hopkins!
            Of course Mayweather can and HAS

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              #26
              Originally posted by shynequasiog22
              Prime Roy was never ruffed up because there wasn't anybody that could rough him up. His movement wouldn't let that happen.
              He had that movement (not prime RJJ movement, but as good as movement as any 39 yr old in this world) in Round 1 and Round against Zalghe and I was , but answer me this, WHAT HAPPENED FROM ROUND 3 ON?

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                #27
                Floyd's on a different level as far as technical ability. He has some of the same physical gifts a prime Roy had though.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by shynequasiog22
                  Prime Roy was never ruffed up because there wasn't anybody that could rough him up. His movement wouldn't let that happen.
                  Originally posted by The_Executioner
                  Well yeah he lost a close decision. I agree. It was competitive. If you define budge by stunned/hurt I disagree. I don't recall Oscar ever buckling Floyd. He caught him wit a big shot at the end of the 10th or 11th and Floyd kept moving. At the end he landed the left hook and Floyd kept trading. And in Floyd's defense Oscar's a bigger stronger fighter.

                  Some say Oscar just stopped using the jab. I'm sure Floyd made an adjustment. Oscar didn't jus stop throwing it.
                  i define budge as in .............

                  a boxer is thinking about throwing his jab, he's thinking "throw the jab, throw the jab" and THEN POW, they get hit, what are they thinking now?

                  "Throw the jab"?

                  or

                  "Fu.ck I got hit pretty bad, that ****ing hurt"

                  He you can ASSUME this, and only ASSUME because we aren't physic, based on the express on a fighters face and their performance there after

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                    #29
                    I believe Mayweather has a much better chin than people give him credit for. He will not just freeze up if he gets hit hard, he still moves about and doesn't get phased for a long time. Like in the Oscar fight, a few punches that Oscar landed would have taken most fighters' heads off, and Mayweather took them flush, but was still able to move around right after and not let Oscar capitalize.

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                    • Brandish
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                      #30
                      Name me RJJ last best win??? GO
                      he can't all the euro's and armenians realize this roy was faded and shot and hasn't had a decent win at 175 in 4 years that's why calzaghe picked to fight him instead of chad dawson who has been cleaing out 175 for the past three years.

                      right now only diacom=nu and eredei are left since joe is too chicken **** to face the best fighter at 175

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