Was Roy in his prime when he fought Eric Hardening?

[ferocity]

Im watching his fight and he looks like the Roy that fought Calzaghe, except Harding isn't pressuring Roy even half of how much Cal did.

Before Tarver, too many people respected Roys power.

[jkdking]

in jones prime his movement was second to non his combinations were second to non. he use to move in and out when fighters through punches. watch the second round agaisnt joe when he lands his two punch combo. that is how roy used to beat his oppenents they could not get set.

i think if they had both meet in there primes. roy would have went out hard made joe feel his power and that would have slowed the pace of the fight.

i also think when he through his straight right he would flow in to a combination.

watch some of jones fights from 1997 to 1999.
even in the first tarver fight watch him land the straight right and then flow it up

i ask you this if roy had landed on joe when he was not afaird to get hit.
say by roy from the griffen fight. in the first round when he caught joe. do you think joe would have been able to carry on

[RichCCFC]

Basically nothing Jones does would gain Calzaghe's respect. Calzaghe's chin is too good and his recovery powers.

Calzaghe's workrate and will would really hurt Jones and he'd possibly beat him with that.

[jkdking]

how old are u

[Benny Leonard]

Basically nothing Jones does would gain Calzaghe's respect. Calzaghe's chin is too good and his recovery powers.

Calzaghe's workrate and will would really hurt Jones and he'd possibly beat him with that.

Calzaghe respected Jones up until he was a Shot Fighter. If he didn't respect him, he would have gone after him. After the Tarver loss, Calzaghe said it was the first time Roy seemed Human.

It's been explained many times: Roy in his prime could move, dance around, agile...he could throw fast, sharp, accurate, powerful combos from all angles (which was a major problem for an opponent)...and was very confident.

However, Calzaghe's stamina and punch-out-put, even for a prime Roy Jones, would make things difficult.

However, Roy back then would also be able to see the counters and land them, in my opinion. Calzaghe has no defense other than his offense and he is open for a shot, but you have to be fast enough or time him right.
Fighting a Prime Roy Jones Jr. is different from the rest of the lot Calzaghe had fought...and of course, the punch-out-put of Calzaghe is different from who Roy fought.
One thing was telling though: a Shot Roy Jones was able to put Calzaghe down, and surprisingly, Calzaghe, despite landing the amount of shots he threw, couldn't drop a Shot Roy Jones Jr.

I do think the best time to get Jones was in his 30's rather than his 20's. Especially when he moved to LH, he started to relax more and pace himself with the rest. This also hurt Jones in the end.

[K-Nan]

Calzaghe respected Jones up until he was a Shot Fighter. If he didn't respect him, he would have gone after him. After the Tarver loss, Calzaghe said it was the first time Roy seemed Human.

It's been explained many times: Roy in his prime could move, dance around, agile...he could throw fast, sharp, accurate, powerful combos from all angles (which was a major problem for an opponent)...and was very confident.

However, Calzaghe's stamina and punch-out-put, even for a prime Roy Jones, would make things difficult.

However, Roy back then would also be able to see the counters and land them, in my opinion. Calzaghe has no defense other than his offense and he is open for a shot, but you have to be fast enough or time him right.
Fighting a Prime Roy Jones Jr. is different from the rest of the lot Calzaghe had fought...and of course, the punch-out-put of Calzaghe is different from who Roy fought.
One thing was telling though: a Shot Roy Jones was able to put Calzaghe down, and surprisingly, Calzaghe, despite landing the amount of shots he threw, couldn't drop a Shot Roy Jones Jr.

He was also able to land quite a few straight rights. A few straight rights that were much slower than they used to be. I think that speaks measures about his speed in his prime.

Joe gets my respect for getting back up after being legitimately hurt and then dominating. But in my mind, it should have never reached that point for him. Not against the Jones that he faced. Anyways, I agree with you that Calzaghe would always have been a tough puzzle for Jones to figure out.

[Steak]

this is prime Roy Jones


this is nowadays Roy Jones


I think I see a difference.

[RichCCFC]

Calzaghe respected Jones up until he was a Shot Fighter. If he didn't respect him, he would have gone after him. After the Tarver loss, Calzaghe said it was the first time Roy seemed Human.

It's been explained many times: Roy in his prime could move, dance around, agile...he could throw fast, sharp, accurate, powerful combos from all angles (which was a major problem for an opponent)...and was very confident.

However, Calzaghe's stamina and punch-out-put, even for a prime Roy Jones, would make things difficult.

However, Roy back then would also be able to see the counters and land them, in my opinion. Calzaghe has no defense other than his offense and he is open for a shot, but you have to be fast enough or time him right.
Fighting a Prime Roy Jones Jr. is different from the rest of the lot Calzaghe had fought...and of course, the punch-out-put of Calzaghe is different from who Roy fought.
One thing was telling though: a Shot Roy Jones was able to put Calzaghe down, and surprisingly, Calzaghe, despite landing the amount of shots he threw, couldn't drop a Shot Roy Jones Jr.

I do think the best time to get Jones was in his 30's rather than his 20's. Especially when he moved to LH, he started to relax more and pace himself with the rest. This also hurt Jones in the end.

A forearm shot put him down.

It would have stopped a lot of fighters.

[bsrizpac]

Im watching his fight and he looks like the Roy that fought Calzaghe, except Harding isn't pressuring Roy even half of how much Cal did.

Before Tarver, too many people respected Roys power.

Who the **** is eric hardening? Is that a **** star?

[RichCCFC]

Roy was much better against Joe than he was against Hanshaw, don't be ******...