The key to beating the UFC

[El Chicano]

In order for Boxing to stay ahead of the UFC, boxing promoters must put together meaningful and intriguing undercard fights on PPVs. This weekend's PPV undercard was weak! I was damn near falling asleep prior to the Jones - Calzaghe fight.

I watched a show on NBC tonight. Dana White was claiming that Boxing had given him the blueprint for what not to do with his company. He said that everytime a fan buys a Boxing PPV, we're like "Damn, they got me again" "I can't believe I paid for this ****". This is somewhat true, evident in all the stream threads that come up in this very forum.

In order for Boxing to reign surpreme over the UFC, the promoters must give us better undercards on these expensive PPV events. Times are rough. We deserve quality for what we pay for. If Boxing can deliver HBO World Championship Boxing quality undercard fights on major PPV events, the UFC won't stand a chance.

Here's an example for what the Jones - Calzaghe undercard should have been like:

Zab vs Ricardo Torres
Augustus vs Randall Bailey
Salita vs Jose Luis Castillo

This is just an example of the types of fights that should be on a PPV undercard. They would sure be more exciting that the crap we had to endure last night.

[Ray*]

When a big fight or a big name fight happens in boxing then the undercard are usually ****, The big-name takes priority and they get most of the budget money on the table so promoter have to found lesser known fighters who would take peanuts for the undercard.


UFC pays their fighter peanuts so its easier to fit 4 to 5 great matchups in one card

[The Gully Gad]

Big undercard fights thats what is needed..
U ram a PPV packed with good fights you cant go wrong

[Mr. Fantastic]

UFC pays their fighter peanuts so its easier to fit 4 to 5 great matchups in one card

I agree with this. Majority of times you come up with really good posts bro. Green K.

[The_Italian]

In order for Boxing to stay ahead of the UFC, boxing promoters must put together meaningful and intriguing undercard fights on PPVs. This weekend's PPV undercard was weak! I was damn near falling asleep prior to the Jones - Calzaghe fight.

I watched a show on NBC tonight. Dana White was claiming that Boxing had given him the blueprint for what not to do with his company. He said that everytime a fan buys a Boxing PPV, we're like "Damn, they got me again" "I can't believe I paid for this ****". This is somewhat true, evident in all the stream threads that come up in this very forum.

In order for Boxing to reign surpreme over the UFC, the promoters must give us better undercards on these expensive PPV events. Times are rough. We deserve quality for what we pay for. If Boxing can deliver HBO World Championship Boxing quality undercard fights on major PPV events, the UFC won't stand a chance.

Here's an example for what the Jones - Calzaghe undercard should have been like:

Zab vs Ricardo Torres
Augustus vs Randall Bailey
Salita vs Jose Luis Castillo

This is just an example of the types of fights that should be on a PPV undercard. They would sure be more exciting that the crap we had to endure last night.

I agree with you 100% and i've even made threads about this topic.

HBO makes you pay $50 for a fight ($55 if its a mayweather fight) and you get to sit through 3-4 of the most BORING fights you ever thought possible with fighters that you either NEVER heard of or you may have seen once or twice on ESPN's FNF but they are fighting a guy who has 10 wins and 7 losses who no one knows who gets knocked out within 3.

I honestly believe they need to be QUALITY matchups with at least names that are realitively KNOWN...

i mean we all know better than to expect mayweather to headline a card and miguel cotto to be on the undercard...

but i mean come on...

give us SOMETHING worth seeing.

just like the hopkins v. pavlik fight...that card was garbage...the first undercard was a first round KO...then the rubio fight was entertaining but the dib fight was garbage to the point where i decieded to get drunk and was pretty ****ed up around the 8th round of the fight that would never end (or at least it seemed that way).

I say if HBO wants to show garbage undercards on their FREE (well you pay for HBO but you know what i mean) fights with a good main event then fine...if ESPN wants to show medicore fights then fine...

but when you pay $50 (or in some cases $55) then you should get at LEAST good undercards...not just be paying $50 for the main event...

thats what it feels like 99% of the time...they just show some boring undercards to make it seem like they are giving you something spectacular...

HBO needs better fights on PPV.

[El Chicano]

I agree with you 100% and i've even made threads about this topic.

HBO makes you pay $50 for a fight ($55 if its a mayweather fight) and you get to sit through 3-4 of the most BORING fights you ever thought possible with fighters that you either NEVER heard of or you may have seen once or twice on ESPN's FNF but they are fighting a guy who has 10 wins and 7 losses who no one knows who gets knocked out within 3.

I honestly believe they need to be QUALITY matchups with at least names that are realitively KNOWN...

i mean we all know better than to expect mayweather to headline a card and miguel cotto to be on the undercard...

but i mean come on...

give us SOMETHING worth seeing.

just like the hopkins v. pavlik fight...that card was garbage...the first undercard was a first round KO...then the rubio fight was entertaining but the dib fight was garbage to the point where i decieded to get drunk and was pretty ****ed up around the 8th round of the fight that would never end (or at least it seemed that way).

I say if HBO wants to show garbage undercards on their FREE (well you pay for HBO but you know what i mean) fights with a good main event then fine...if ESPN wants to show medicore fights then fine...

but when you pay $50 (or in some cases $55) then you should get at LEAST good undercards...not just be paying $50 for the main event...

thats what it feels like 99% of the time...they just show some boring undercards to make it seem like they are giving you something spectacular...

HBO needs better fights on PPV.

Co-Sign!

The undercards are trash. Dana White is using boxing's mistakes as a blue print for what not to do.

If boxing doesn't want to lose anymore ground to MMA then it needs to step up the undercards.

[Get_Loud740]

Im sorry to say boxing will not pass the UFC,ever.The UFC has a WAAAAAY larger fan base for starters,the UFC is definately more brutal,which people love to see I might add,people love violence,which the UFC has more of(breaking limbs,tap outs,near bare knuckle->head knockouts)Boxing has been shining the past century!! You cant expect boxing to stay on top forever!!

[neils7147933]

In order for Boxing to stay ahead of the UFC, boxing promoters must put together meaningful and intriguing undercard fights on PPVs. This weekend's PPV undercard was weak! I was damn near falling asleep prior to the Jones - Calzaghe fight.

I watched a show on NBC tonight. Dana White was claiming that Boxing had given him the blueprint for what not to do with his company. He said that everytime a fan buys a Boxing PPV, we're like "Damn, they got me again" "I can't believe I paid for this ****". This is somewhat true, evident in all the stream threads that come up in this very forum.

In order for Boxing to reign surpreme over the UFC, the promoters must give us better undercards on these expensive PPV events. Times are rough. We deserve quality for what we pay for. If Boxing can deliver HBO World Championship Boxing quality undercard fights on major PPV events, the UFC won't stand a chance.

Here's an example for what the Jones - Calzaghe undercard should have been like:

Zab vs Ricardo Torres
Augustus vs Randall Bailey
Salita vs Jose Luis Castillo

This is just an example of the types of fights that should be on a PPV undercard. They would sure be more exciting that the crap we had to endure last night.

Roy was promoting himself so he had to throw some money at some inflated records and put them in showcases.

Some of the recent Golden Boy events have had embarassingly bad undercards too...and limited in number as well...

[El Chicano]

Roy was promoting himself so he had to throw some money at some inflated records and put them in showcases.

Some of the recent Golden Boy events have had embarassingly bad undercards too...and limited in number as well...

That's what I'm saying, the promoter's are to blame.

[neils7147933]

When a big fight or a big name fight happens in boxing then the undercard are usually ****, The big-name takes priority and they get most of the budget money on the table so promoter have to found lesser known fighters who would take peanuts for the undercard.


UFC pays their fighter peanuts so its easier to fit 4 to 5 great matchups in one card

They don't have to be major names, they could be competitively matched though.

I'd never heard of Jorge Arce until his first fight with Hussein Hussein on the Pacquiao/Morales I undercard. I bet most of this board hadn't either. First time I saw Michael Katsidis was on an undercard. Putting on a fantastic scrap on a major event can put a fighter on the map. But this weekend, Zab and Salita fought bums and people were finding Emmanual Augustus on a card they PAID FOR? come on....

Showtime is good at putting together good matchups for TV, whether you've heard of the fighters that come up on Shobox or not. And yes, you can get many of these guys for "peanuts"