Calzaghe beats Jones at any age.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I dunno, but it doesnt mean much. Fighters are paid by revenues, not headcount.

Revenue comes from headcount.

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Is the WBO not a major belt worn by many great fighters from Hearns, to Corrales, Barrera, Carbajal, etc etc?


Roy had the power, was the shotcaller, and the name recognition.

He never sought out a Joe fight.

Why is all the blame on Joe?

Read what I said...

The WBO wasnt worth much back then, because it came into existence into 1988.

Until recently, undisputed meant WBC+WBA+IBF.

The reason it is worth something now, is because the organization behaved decently, but in 1998 it didnt have much weight.

Now it is one of the best alphabet organization IMO, but that doesnt chenge its weight 10 years ago

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Revenue comes from headcount.

If price were equal yes, but casino tickets and all the money revolving around for the hotel are much more expensive than cheao arena/stadium tickets.

A PPV costs more often more than a ticket in a stadium. A full large stadium holds at most 100k people, PPVs make multiple 100ks of buys.

It must be hard to deal with the facts which make it profitable to hold major fights in US, even if 10 ppl go to watch them, and I am somewhat sorry to be the first to open your eyes on this, but it had to happen someday, boy.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Read what I said...

The WBO wasnt worth much back then, because it came into existence into 1988.

Until recently, undisputed meant WBC+WBA+IBF.

The reason it is worth something now, is because the organization behaved decently, but in 1998 it didnt have much weight.

Now it is one of the best alphabet organization IMO, but that doesnt chenge its weight 10 years ago

WBO has been just as legit as any other org for 10 years.

If it wasn't, fighters wouldn't be paying fees for those straps.

Roy lost.

Tough ****, deal with it.

No wait, matter of fact,

get over it.

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WBO has been just as legit as any other org for 10 years.

If it wasn't, fighters wouldn't be paying fees for those straps.

Roy lost.

Tough ****, deal with it.

No wait, matter of fact,

get over it.

LOL, fighters pay fees for IBO, IBA, NABO WBF belts if that's what they can get.

Carbajal canned the WBO belt to go back to WBA when he won it, it was him right?

Look at some of the champs they had back then.

Go on make a fool out of yourself.

[Vasyl’s dad]

If price were equal yes, but casino tickets and all the money revolving around for the hotel are much more expensive than cheao arena/stadium tickets.

A PPV costs more often more than a ticket in a stadium. A full large stadium holds at most 100k people, PPVs make multiple 100ks of buys.

It must be hard to deal with the facts which make it profitable to hold major fights in US, even if 10 ppl go to watch them, and I am somewhat sorry to be the first to open your eyes on this, but it had to happen someday, boy.

Oh, so now america has exclusive rights to not only boxing rings, but PPVs as well.

lol ppv cost more than a ticket in a stadium.

standard fee for a big PPV fight is 50 bucks. 55 for a DLH fight.

Now you're going to tell me a ticket to a fight in an arena or stadium is less than that?

WTF are you smoking?

Pass that ****.

[Vasyl’s dad]

LOL, fighters pay fees for IBO, IBA, NABO WBF belts if that's what they can get.

Carbajal canned the WBO belt to go back to WBA when he won it, it was him right?

Look at some of the champs they had back then.

Go on make a fool out of yourself.

and yet, BO has been legit as any other.

*looks back at champs then*

Thomas Hearns.

[Dan...]

I never said Roy should have went to Joe,

However I did say this.



Blame goes to both guys equally.


No matter what it is, you Jones boys come up with excuses out of the ****ing wazoo for your guy.


"Joe wouldn't beat him in his prime"
"Joe never wanted a fight"
"I'd suck Roys ****"
"Joe slaps"
"I'd let Roy teabag me".


Pretty ****ing stannish.


If it was a problem, why did Roy even take the fight in 2008?

Letting your true colours show here bro, nice work.

This is what it boils down to:

- Absolutely no blame can be attached to Roy Jones for he and Calzaghe not fighting a decade ago. At this point Calzaghe was a single belt holder at 168 with his best win being over a past prime Eubank.
- At the same time Jones was unifiying the LHW division and held titles at 3 divisions, wins over Toney and Hopkins and was regarded as the p4p best fighter in the world.
- Given the relative status of the two at the time, if anyone is to blame for not pushing the fight, it is 100% Calzaghe.


These are facts. None of them are disputable.
Having said that I am sure you will come back with a 2-line answer that
a) is purely a repitition of one of your past hollow arguments;
b) clearly shows you are unable to look past your hate for Roy Jones; and
c) completely sidesteps the true point at hand.

Anyways, I am done here, good day sir.

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Oh, so now america has exclusive rights to not only boxing rings, but PPVs as well.

lol ppv cost more than a ticket in a stadium.

standard fee for a big PPV fight is 50 bucks. 55 for a DLH fight.

Now you're going to tell me a ticket to a fight in an arena or stadium is less than that?

WTF are you smoking?

Pass that ****.

1) If you fight in prime time in Europe, you are not fighting prime time in us. So you have to trade off between PPVs and live attendance.

2) The tickets for Marquez-Vazquez 3 started from 25$. Much cheaper than in Vegas. In Europe this is even cheaper

Unlike you, I lived in Europe and I have been in a stadium many times in different countries too... do you know why tickets in an arena or stadium are cheaper (way cheaper in a stadium) because half of the seats are immensely far...

Isnt it boring to come up with comments like "PPVs cant be more expensive than a ticket", and then be forced to shut the **** up?

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and yet, BO has been legit as any other.

*looks back at champs then*

Thomas Hearns.

LOL @ past his prime thomas hearns at 168 being a relevant champ. I guess whoever put a cruiserweight belt on him later, must be a very relevant organization, right?