If Roy wins tonight is he Top 10 All Time?

[RayLeonard82]

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Just stop posting!! Now

Ok lets break it down. Lets assume now Roy beats Calzaghe. I grew up in the Hagler era and im not trying to knock him but if Roy beats Calzaghe his resume is better.

Lets look at there 3 big victories in there careers

1. Hagler's biggest victories - Hamsho, Duran, Hearns, Mugabi. Im going by his 3 biggest wins. Now Duran was really a blown up middleweight in 1983 and wasnt even close to his prime. Hearns had also moved up in weight. He was in his prime, but Hagler was still the natural 160 pounder. He's supposed to beat these two because he's the natural middleweight and both are moving up in weight.

2 Roy Jones - James Toney in his prime beat Mike McCallum (twice) dominated Iran Barkley and knocked out prime young Michael Nunn. Roy dominated James Toney. Bernard Hopkins is one of the top 3 middleweights of all time and Calzaghe has ruled the 168 pound division for 10 + years.


Duran of 1983 is past his prime and not even a natural middleweight and Hearns was moving up in weight also. I think sometimes ppl just automatically favor older eras. Hagler's biggest wins came against fighters that moved up in weight.

Like some said, you can make a argument Roy is already top 10, but adding Calzaghe to that resume makes that argument that much better.

[strongisland24]

roy is one of the most physically gifted fighters of all time.

[TheGR8TESTOAT]

If he wins his overall resume will now look pretty impressive.

James Toney - When Tony was undefeated and in his prime and at the time a top 3 pound for pound fighter.

Bernard Hopkins - One of the best Middleweights of all time. Probably top 3

Joe Calzaghe - Top 3 pound for pound at the time Roy beat him and was undefeated at 45-0.

Montell Griffin - Beat James Toney (twice) and was undefeated at the time Roy knocked him out.

John Ruiz - Not a big name or a great heavyweight, but still he's still a heavyweight and was champ at the time. Ruiz was coming off beating Holyfield and Roy went from 160 all the way to heavyweight.

Virgil Hill - Knocked him out with a body shot


Not a bad resume there. But 1st Roy needs to beat Calzaghe

He has been all time Great ever since he cleaned out light heavy and winning the belt from ruiz in heavyweight overkilled that status and coming back down to win the belt back from tarver icing on the cake. even if joe c wins tonight roy's legacy is sealed. but we all know how it will end tonight

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[flat1985]

I think he already is top 10.

I think Joes in for a long night. I just got that feeling that Roy is gonna win

[ippo]

roy is one of the most physically gifted fighters of all time.

yup, i would have him in the top 3 middleweights of all time.

[Ramamaiden]

for me he already is ....but im biased xD

[Zack Morris]

No way! He fought waaay too many sanitation workers and police officers to be considered all time great. His best wins were against: (1) A green and inexpereinced Hopkins (2) A severely weight drained Tony. He was a walkiing corpse that night. (3) The worst heavyweight title holder in HW history (Ruiz)

He never stepped up his level of competiton in his prime and when he did he was exposed by Tarver and Johnson. Hell, he couldn't even ko a 2 year retired former welterweight Trinidad.

[hishaam15]

No way! He fought waaay too many sanitation workers and police officers to be considered all time great. His best wins were against: (1) A green and inexpereinced Hopkins (2) A severely weight drained Tony. He was a walkiing corpse that night. (3) The worst heavyweight title holder in HW history (Ruiz)

He never stepped up his level of competiton in his prime and when he did he was exposed by Tarver and Johnson. Hell, he couldn't even ko a 2 year retired former welterweight Trinidad.

its easy to discredit anyones resume, no matter how many names they beat.

[Pullcounter]

If he wins his overall resume will now look pretty impressive.

James Toney - When Tony was undefeated and in his prime and at the time a top 3 pound for pound fighter.

Bernard Hopkins - One of the best Middleweights of all time. Probably top 3

Joe Calzaghe - Top 3 pound for pound at the time Roy beat him and was undefeated at 45-0.

Montell Griffin - Beat James Toney (twice) and was undefeated at the time Roy knocked him out.

John Ruiz - Not a big name or a great heavyweight, but still he's still a heavyweight and was champ at the time. Ruiz was coming off beating Holyfield and Roy went from 160 all the way to heavyweight.

Virgil Hill - Knocked him out with a body shot


Not a bad resume there. But 1st Roy needs to beat Calzaghe

look... bottom line, rjj is going to lose... he's shot... he should've made this fight in his prime...

the best that rjj can do is make calzaghe look like **** and not get KTFO. that's all we can ask of rjj in 2008.

if the fight stinks enough, maybe calzaghe will stick around for a fight w/ Dawson.

[Unknown Champ]

I can not wait for the fight, and my cousin called me up and said to come over he is getting the fight!!!! yeah/!!!!!!!!!!!!