Just rewatched and scored Hopkins-Calzaghe...

[Malicious]

...115-114 B-Hop. This was one of the closest fights I've seen. I scored 2 rounds even, so I can understand why there was so much controversy. You give Calzaghe either and it's a draw. Hopkins obviously did more damage and landed the more effective shots. It seemed Calzaghe took the first few rounds off to measure Hopkins and assess his style. That was the difference in the fight IMO as Hopkins took every one of the first 4 rounds except the 2nd which I had even.

[Malicious]

Jones-Trinidad replay on HBO2 right now if anyone's interested.

[OptimusWolf]

I usually favor the more accurate puncher (eg I had Collazo beating Hatton on first viewing) but I had this 115-112 the first time and the same the second. Even rounds are a cop out IMO unless nothing happens as in some HW fights.

[MANGLER]

I had the fight for B-Hop by 1 point, but I always thought a draw or close decision for either was fair.

[Malicious]

Even rounds are a cop out IMO unless nothing happens as in some HW fights.

True, but what else can you do when Hopkins lands 8 or so times and Joe double that but Hopkins' least crisp punch was more solid than Joe's best? Like I said it was extremely close and tough to score.

First time I saw it live I saw it the same way you did, but second time around I saw Hopkins doing more damage and just as accurate (they were both around 30% overall).

[ACHlLLES]

I had the fight for Calzaghe since Hopkins held like 200 times, head-butted, and faked low-blows. And the ****ty ref didn't do anything about it at all.

Bhop was cheating because of Joe Calzaghe's work-rate was too much for him.

[S.G.]

everytime i watch this i have Hopkins winning

Clean Punching & Effective Aggression - Hopkins by far
Defense - Hopkins
Ring Generalship - Toss-up, personally give B-Hop the edge though

it seems the judges pandered to compubox type stats rather than common sense

[HandSpeed303]

I had the fight for Calzaghe since Hopkins held like 200 times, head-butted, and faked low-blows. And the ****ty ref didn't do anything about it at all.

Bhop was cheating because of Joe Calzaghe's work-rate was too much for him.

well that is no way to score a fight.....to each his own i guess....

[OptimusWolf]

Just assess who has been more effective that round. Boxing doesn't distinguish between close and wide rounds (excepting knockdowns), thats just the way it is as far as I can see.

I'm no boxing expert but I remember, as a Calzaghe fan, not even being that worried by the first score for Hopkins, I was so confident that he'd won more rounds.

The beauty of boxing is in enjoying different styles and as such, different judges will see some fights differently. Perhaps I give more credit than others to JC's style, but I really doubt it, I don't particularly like it at all except when it is used to humiliate a limited fighter such as Lacy!

[Malicious]

I had the fight for Calzaghe since Hopkins held like 200 times, head-butted, and faked low-blows. And the ****ty ref didn't do anything about it at all.

Bhop was cheating because of Joe Calzaghe's work-rate was too much for him.

Well "cheating" is a matter for the ref not the judges, so to consider that in your score is unfair. Joe did his share of holding and hitting/low blows. I agree that Cortez has turned in some horrible performances, but overall I think he did a decent job. I would have liked to see him let them work on the inside more, but he wasn't terrible like I've seen him be in the past.