Top 10 Light Heavyweights

[Neuraxis]

Who gives a flying **** about the LINEAR champ ?

"Linear" to what....a sanctioning body title ?

Neuraxis....you only hump that term because it serves your purpose...which is the elevation of Eastern Euro fighters, & the denigration of American ones.

You're transparent.

Or the elevation of DM and the denigration of RJJ. Get it straight.

[jabsRstiff]

Or the elevation of DM and the denigration of RJJ. Get it straight.

I believe you. I'll bet that's why you started this dull-ass topic, just to bring people around to that debate.

I was bored by Jones-DM debating, back in 2000. It's even less interesting now.

[Neuraxis]

I believe you. I'll bet that's why you started this dull-ass topic, just to bring people around to that debate.

I was bored by Jones-DM debating, back in 2000. It's even less interesting now.

Actually I made this thread as a way to move on. It was supposed to be a top 10 LHW list. RJJ and DM don't even belong anywhere in this thread. But some people can't get over them I guess, and I can't just stand by with educating them.

[lsk]

Even Rjj lost to in a row a think he deserve to be in top ten

[MikeHunt]

No way Tarvar beats Matthew Saad Muhammad or Michael Spinks.......

[Mrpresident]

Whoever compiled that linear page seems to hate RJJ, they left him out of every weight class he cleaned out... they even list James Toney as "vacating" the middleweight title in 1993 then it wasn't re-established until 2001 in Hopkins' name. What a joke. If memory serves me correctly, Roy Jones Jr masterfully outboxed the so-called unbeatable James Toney winning a 12 round unanimous decison to take the title. If that's "vacating" the title then I guess RJJ was just "vacating" the title when he got KTFO by Tarver & Johnson... heh.

Toney vacated the linear middle wieght title, this is true. But RJJ beat him at super middle, so Roy has a claim at being the liner super middle boss. At light heavy Darius M. beat Vigil hill before Roy did, Virgil was the linear LH champ and since Roy and Darius never fought Roy has no claim to that distinction, yes he may have been the Undisputed champion he was not the linear one.

[BoxingPrincess]

No way Tarvar beats Matthew Saad Muhammad or Michael Spinks.......

my matt is the best

[whdempsey]

Toney vacated the linear middle wieght title, this is true. But RJJ beat him at super middle, so Roy has a claim at being the liner super middle boss. At light heavy Darius M. beat Vigil hill before Roy did, Virgil was the linear LH champ and since Roy and Darius never fought Roy has no claim to that distinction, yes he may have been the Undisputed champion he was not the linear one.

I can't believe this. Look, this is indisputable fact, ok, not my opinion. I'll find the records and post them later, but I'm sick of hearing about this:

Virgil Hill was not the linear light heavyweight champion. There wasn't one between 1985, when Spinks relinquished and fractured the titles, and 1999, when Roy Jones unified them.

[whdempsey]

Yes we already went over this. I showed you why you were wrong and then you never posted on the thread again. Even though I brought it back up to the top for you and you still didn't post on it. I don't know what you are talking about regarding Ring Magazine. If that's their stance then they are obviously wrong. I can't find anyplace anywhere that calls Roy Jones Jr. or Tarver the linear champs. As for Veit and Green, they had both fought their most recent fights at LHW and not SMW, but since then you are right about Veit. He fought on 11/6 at SMW. Griffin was ahead on 1 scorecard and behind by 1 and 2 points on the others. RJJ just couldn't keep his cool. A loss is a loss bro. Johnson lost to Ruiz and Jones lost to Griffin. No one is saying that Erdei is better than RJJ was. Get it straight man. And I must have missed the controversy when Gonzalez beat Johnson.

I must not have been online when it was at the top. I'm sorry. That in no way means that I conceded.

Green holds a spurious title at supermiddle. He was fighting a supermiddle. It's true, he fought over 168, but that doesn't make him a light heavy.

There's a difference between a loss and being beaten. I was taking issue with your use of the word beat. That's all that I have to say about Jones and Griffin.

Johnson never lost to Ruiz. Johnson never fought at heavyweight. I have no idea what you meant.

As for the Ring, the whole purpose of their policy is to declare one champion valid per weight class. If that doesn't sound like a linear championship, then you and I have different definitions for the same word.

And I can guarantee you never proved me wrong. And I can guarantee that the Ring is not obviously wrong in calling Roy Jones the linear light heavyweight champion.