Anyone else agree with me now after the Pavlik hype has gone?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Bergkamp for master of the universe?

As God, he is already Master of the Universe

[Dan...]

As God, he is already Master of the Universe

You boys could certainly use a bit of Dennis right now.

[phallus]

Kessler is good, but who's the last guy he beat again? He needs to beat more quality guys.

[QUOTE=Chunk;4276337]Kessler is good but he ain't a world beater![/QUOTE]

Put Kessler in with a living opponent and then we can gauge where he stands.

I mean Pavlik looked unbeatable against Lockett also. It is easy to look good against Tomato Cans. Truth is we have no idea where Kessler stands since his loss to Calzaghe.

Both Kessler and Pavlik have a world to prove in my eyes right now.

I thought the Pavlik "HYPE" was that he was a tough sonofabitch with heavy hands. Has that somehow changed by getting outboxed by Hopkins?

kessler is more skilled than pavlik but definitley not on ber-nard's level of skills. kessler is limited compared to hopkins, he only uses the jab - straight right combo over and over again, kind of like pavlik. right now, neither guy looks like a world beater to me either.

[βetamax]

I think people are underrating Pavlik. Kessler is no Hopkins when it comes to movement and he's much more one dimensional in the sense of being a standup 1-2 fighter (like Pavlik) which is suited to Pavlik's style. We saw what a crafty fighter like Calzaghe did to him and even had him hurt at one point just from a couple of punches, not accumulation.

It would be a tough fight to call but I wouldn't count out Pavlik or even a KO.