How Many Fights Does One Need To Watch Of A Fighter To "Know" Them?

[2501]

What I mean is, can someone's opinion on a fighter be respected if they've only watched one or two of his fights? Or should that person watch 3-4 fights to truly grasp the fighter's abilities and deficiencies so that they're opinion on the matter is valid?

Example, there are a lot of fans who have only seen Margarito fight once or twice and they automatically assume that he has no boxing skill whatsoever. Anyone has followed his career or has seen more than 3 of his fights can tell you that Margo actually CAN box, use a jab, use lateral movement (obviously not as well as pure boxers).

Or Floyd, many people think he has been boring his whole career, but at the lighter weights, his hands were thrown more often. He was more offensive minded.

what do you think?

[Dynamite Kid]

depends cause some people just watch to see who the winner is and dont pick up on the tactics and subtle movements fighters make to close the gap etc or feint their way in etc


i like to break a fight down as im watching it

[S A M U R A I]

What I mean is, can someone's opinion on a fighter be respected if they've only watched one or two of his fights? Or should that person watch 3-4 fights to truly grasp the fighter's abilities and deficiencies so that they're opinion on the matter is valid?

Example, there are a lot of fans who have only seen Margarito fight once or twice and they automatically assume that he has no boxing skill whatsoever. Anyone has followed his career or has seen more than 3 of his fights can tell you that Margo actually CAN box, use a jab, use lateral movement (obviously not as well as pure boxers).

Or Floyd, many people think he has been boring his whole career, but at the lighter weights, his hands were thrown more often. He was more offensive minded.

what do you think?

I think you can make a fairly decent assessment of a fighter within maybe 3 fights, but it depends on which stage of their career you see them.

Take Calzaghe for example. If you only saw the Hopkins fight you'd think he was useless. But take three of his best (Lacy, Kessler, and maybe Eubank) and you've got a more accurate picture.



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[-MAKAVELLI-]

If the fighter is a prospect, then 2-3 fights might not be a good amount to make a fair assessment…but if we’re talking about a fighter nearing or is in their prime, then I believe 3-4 fights is enough to make an evaluation that would be consistent of the fighter’s traits

[IMDAZED]

Good example with Margarito. I always thought he was a good fighter then I went and purchased about 20 of his fights two years ago (I had only seen about five before then).

After watching those fights, I knew right then and there he was a problem for anyone.

Conversely, I remember when Diego Corrales beat Roberto Garcia for the title. A couple months later someone asked me if I thought he'd beat Floyd. I said Floyd would kick his a** all over the ring. And that opinion never changed, even when Corrales was beating on Gainer, John Brown, etc.

[MELLY-MEL...]

no less than 3, but i think for ME it's 4!

[Ryn0]

Depends, with prospects you can't really judge them until they reach championship level and if they don't then well....
With a top level fighter you'd have too look at 3-4 videos in there prime, if you've read up on them try and look at fight they struggled in to get a good measure of there weaknesses and look at there best performances to get a measure of strengths against styles etc.

Calzaghe is not a good example because his style has changed over his career from being a high volume power puncher to a lateral moving, high volume, inside fighter with little power. Hopkins is also a bad example because he changes his style according to his opponent. Someone like Jones though has fought the way he has his entire career so take any fight in his prime and you've got a good measure of what he's all about

[Sweet Pea 50]

It also depends on how much experience said person has in watching boxing, or has been the sport themselves, I think, as well. But yeah, I think 3-4 fights, and knowing the fighters opposition, is a pretty good start in getting to know a fighters capabilities.

[Crazylegs77]

Depends on who they fight, for instance, I have no respect for Berto or Gamboa because they fight crappy opponents.

[Dynamite Kid]

also i think you have to keep in mind at what the fighter is getting away with the particular calibre of oponent he is facing

you did not see Hopkins getting hit with tripple hooks against Jones