Is Sven Ottke an All Time Great?

[The Gully Gad]

Isnt this the same guy who never fought out of Germany?

[jreckoning]

Isnt this the same guy who never fought out of Germany?

This is the guy that beat Michael Moorer Chris Byrd and a host of others in the Amateurs.

He got gifts as a pro, but he was pretty good overall.

[TheManchine]

21 title defenses, gift decision against reid, always stayed in his home country, fought old timers and no hopers, no power. who am i talking about calzaghe or ottke?

funny how you bring Calzaghe into EVERY thread

he must have ****ed you good because you just cant seem to get over him

[slicksouthpaw16]

He hasn't beaten any elite fighters, and is mainly known for staying in Germany for his whole career and defending his title against a bunch of no names, on top of a few of those being controversial, like the Johnson and Reid fights. I don't rank him anywhere.

[jreckoning]

He hasn't beaten any elite fighters, and is mainly known for staying in Germany for his whole career and defending his title against a bunch of no names, on top of a few of those being controversial, like the Johnson and Reid fights. I don't rank him anywhere.

You obviously didn't see him whip Byrd's ass in the am's or Moorers, or Tarvers.

As a pro he was ok and got gifts but he was good overall.

[TheGreatA]

You obviously didn't see him whip Byrd's ass in the am's or Moorers, or Tarvers.

As a pro he was ok and got gifts but he was good overall.

I also thought Ottke was a great amateur but not that great as a pro, perhaps because he had trouble adjusting to the "professional style" having started at age 30.

He could make any fight close but there's no way he deserved all of them.

[slicksouthpaw16]

You obviously didn't see him whip Byrd's ass in the am's or Moorers, or Tarvers.

As a pro he was ok and got gifts but he was good overall.

But of course that was the amateurs, i wasn't really wasn't too impressed with him in the pros. He seemed limited IMO and he stayed in Germany. I just don't see greatness.

I remember Bobby Pacquaio fighting someone named Carlos Navarro and Al Bernstein was talking about how Navarro had beaten Mayweather in the amateurs, is he great?

[robjr]

where is the "lol" option on the poll?

[jreckoning]

I also thought Ottke was a great amateur but not that great as a pro, perhaps because he had trouble adjusting to the "professional style" having started at age 30.

He could make any fight close but there's no way he deserved all of them.

Yeah, not an all time great but my no means a joke.

I believe Iceman sparred with him years ago, and he can attest to his ability if I am not mistaken.

[BennyST]

Sven Ottke > Glen Johnson > Roy Jones > Virgil Hill > Drake Thadzi > James Toney > Michael Nunn > Donald Curry > Milton McCrory > Luis Santana > Terry Norris > Buster Drayton > Davey Moore > Wilfred Benitez > Roberto Duran > Iran Barkley > Thomas Hearns > Pipino Cuevas > Billy Backus > Jose Napoles > Emile Griffith > Dick Tiger > Jose Torres > Don Fullmer > Joey Archer > Sugar Ray Robinson.

GOAT.

But in all seriousness, no. He received quite a few gift decisions and only fought once outside of Germany early in his career.

Damn man, that would have taken some thought. Fantastic.