Originally posted by The1God
Prime Hamed versus Today's PacMan
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I agree, that Espinosa remark doesn't really add much to this discussion.
Back to Barrera-Hamed. There's no question that soemthing very big happened to Hamed in that fight and he's never recovered. My thought was that Hamed's mental toughness (not his demonstrated power and one-punch counter) was lacking and that is enough to defeat any fighter against most opponents that show-up ready.
Hamed winning easy or Pac winning easy doesn't sound right. But, was does sound right is that Hamed was due to have his mental weakness exposed. It just happend to be Barrera that night. It could have been PacMan today.
I would love to see this fight, with reservations. If Hamed was seriously ready to commit (and I doubt he's ever been 100% committed) I would love to see him back in the ring, with anybody worthy.Comment
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The Prince had an ugly balance. You start moving around him and he'd tangle his feet. He had horrible technique but had the speed and power to make up for it. Pac's faster and can compte strengthwise. He's also better on his feet. If they get into a slugfest, Hamed sleeps. If Kelly knocked him down, Pac will knock him out.Comment
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Kevin Kelley knocked the Prince down three times, in three different rounds (1st, 2nd, 4th). His chin was suspect, I'm surprised MAB never dropped him. Pac destroys him.Originally posted by karaPac is good, but I dont think he is good enough to beat a prime Hamed. Hamed had a very good chin and is still the strongest guy at the weight. Manny would go to war and get knocked out. I dont think Manny has it in him to stay away from a slugfest.Comment
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lmao.......classicOriginally posted by big_pappythey knock eachother out simultaiously....they both suck!!!!!!!!j/kComment
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wrong Hameds chin is not suspect his balance is bad thats why he gets kn****ed down. You have never seen Hamed stubling around the ring on dream street.
Kelley only knocked Hamed down once the other two where because his glove touched the canvas.
Hmaed could take yopu out with either hand from any angle and from any punch
and please lets not act like Pac has an iron chin here. The guy has been KO'ed twice and had to hold on for dear life just to survive against Huessien.Comment
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Nobody is saying Pac has an iron chin. I'm expressing my opinion. Also, the Prince was down twice, I remember the 2nd and 4th round KDs perfectly. I didn't see the first round because I got to the bar late but I remember the second and third ones and he was on the canvas.Originally posted by josewrong Hameds chin is not suspect his balance is bad thats why he gets kn****ed down. You have never seen Hamed stubling around the ring on dream street.
Kelley only knocked Hamed down once the other two where because his glove touched the canvas.
Hmaed could take yopu out with either hand from any angle and from any punch
and please lets not act like Pac has an iron chin here. The guy has been KO'ed twice and had to hold on for dear life just to survive against Huessien.
There would be some madd clashing of heads in this fight, that's for sure.Comment
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Pacs speed would cause problems but Hameds mad style where he could hurt you with any shot from almost any angle i think would be enough to retain Pac, remember too Hamed was fast handed as well as being immensley powerful, he was physically very strong too and could man-handled alot of people, especially those coming up in weight. It's just his technique and balance ******, his chin wasn't that bad really ( a bit dodgy) i think most of it was balance.Comment
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