WTF? Lucian Bute over Mikkel Kessler?

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  • Kball15
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    #11
    Originally posted by BatTheMan
    Kessler's resumée >>>> Bute's resumée.

    Honestly K-ball. I give you a mulligan there.
    YOU HAVE TO RANK THEM BASED ON RECENT PERFORMANCES.

    Kessler is over there knocking out bums, while Bute has racked up a few consecutive wins over solid oposition.

    Am i saying Bute is the better fighter? absolutely not, but i think he deserves the higher ranking because since Kesslers loss, he hasnt done anything note worthy at all

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    • MELLY-MEL...
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      #12
      boxrec is a comedy act!

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      • Dirk Diggler UK
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        #13
        Originally posted by Kball15
        that was before his loss to calzaghe.

        u have to rank these fighters based on what they have done RECENTLY.

        Hell, Hopkins should be the #1 middleweight in the world right now cause he had 20 defeneses... see what im saying?
        So losing to a top 3 P4P fighter makes you worse than Lucian Bute?

        Butes best win isnt as impressive as Kessler's loss.

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        • Stickman
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          #14
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          So losing to a top 3 P4P fighter makes you worse than Lucian Bute?

          Butes best win isnt as impressive as Kessler's loss.

          It's simply because he's still, at least technically, undefeated. That's all. If Bute ever gets into the ring with Kessler, that'll change (by the 8th round), and Kessler will get his ranking back on boxrec, not that it really matters....it's all done by computer, and only uses the record itself, nothing else. That zero in the middle column is actually pretty meaningless in alot of ways, boxrec doesn't take that into account.

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          • S A M U R A I
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            #15
            Originally posted by Kball15
            YOU HAVE TO RANK THEM BASED ON RECENT PERFORMANCES.

            Kessler is over there knocking out bums, while Bute has racked up a few consecutive wins over solid oposition.

            Am i saying Bute is the better fighter? absolutely not, but i think he deserves the higher ranking because since Kesslers loss, he hasnt done anything note worthy at all
            Dude, Bute was just KO'd by a guy who Kessler beat up. Before this? Bute beat a 38 year-old William Joppy. Not that impressive.



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            • Slotff
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              #16
              Originally posted by Kball15
              that was before his loss to calzaghe.

              u have to rank these fighters based on what they have done RECENTLY.

              Hell, Hopkins should be the #1 middleweight in the world right now cause he had 20 defeneses... see what im saying?
              Actually, if there is any reason to rank Hopkins as the #1 middleweight in the world its because he just dominated Pavlik. Yes, yes, I know the fight was at 170.

              But the Kessler-Andrade fight was recent. Just last year infact.

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              • Randall_Hopkirk
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                #17
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                Are you ******? Kessler beat the same guy by 12 round brutalisation.
                18 months ago. Since then he's lost and beat two guys not even on the same page as him. He is better than Bute but their resumes over the last year has Bute slightly ahead. Boxrec is what it is.

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                • Randall_Hopkirk
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  So losing to a top 3 P4P fighter makes you worse than Lucian Bute?

                  Butes best win isnt as impressive as Kessler's loss.
                  You summed up perfectly the strange basis for Kessler's current recognition. He gets far too much credit for losing a fight.

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                  • deanrw
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                    #19
                    Just because Bute basically lost to Andrade, does not mean he automatically loses to Kessler.

                    I don't agree with the ranking, but Bute's fast hands and decent power will give anyone a real test.

                    Neither of them has faced the type of opponent that the other guy offers at this point. Styles make fights folks.

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                    • BattlingNelson
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Randall_Hopkirk
                      18 months ago. Since then he's lost and beat two guys not even on the same page as him. He is better than Bute but their resumes over the last year has Bute slightly ahead. Boxrec is what it is.
                      That's ridiculous. In the past 12 months Kessler has lost to the p4p no.2, hospitalized a young undefeated fighter and KO'ed a mandatory who has never been ko'ed before and that in his own backyard.

                      At the same time Bute has defeated Berrio (a good journeyman at best), a 35 year old washed-up Joppy who himself hadn't fought anyone with a pulse since 2004 and of course Andrade who Kessler soundly outpointed without losing a single minute of the entire fight.

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