Would Ivan Calderon go through Wladimir Klitschkos resume undefeated???

[larryx]

btw the Paul Williams argument is bull**** because he has NEVER fought under welterweight and started fighting at middleweight and super middleweight.

Oscar AND Floyd started in the same division and have fought in the same divisions other then jr. middle.

and middleweight

[El Chicano]

Floyd is about 2 inches shorter than Oscar. He's got a slightly smaller frame. His metabolism is better than Oscar's as Oscar seems the type to get fat if he does not work out. At thier best fighting shape I'd say they are seperated by ONE boxing weight class, with Oscar being the slightly bigger man. Not enough of a size difference to have an arguement about.

Yes Oscar technically fought at Middle, but look at him against Sturm, he looked like a potato. Against Hopkins he weighed in at 150 something. He's definately not a Middleweight and he's over his absolute best fighting weight at 154lbs. I believe he fought at Jr Middle so long because he did not want to train hard enough to lose the weight, evident in him always gassing out in the late rounds. Welter is his best ideal weight. I'd say 140lbs is Mayweather's. So there's your one weight division.

[Sin City]

no no oscar and pacman are the same size their fighting at 147...according to mr sin city aka i hate floyd..lol

you don't understand my argument.. no Paul Williams isn't the same size as Floyd because they have fought at welterweight. No Pacman isn't the same size as Oscar.

What matters is what division they started at and the division they have fought in.
Y'all just trying to make strawman arguments to get out of the fact that you know I am right. That is why you wont answer the Duran question and why you are throwing irrelevant comparison out there.

What divisions did Manny and Paul start in and fight at? What divisions did Oscar and Floyd start in and what divisions have they fought at? exactly...

[ANDROID_DOES]

no no oscar and pacman are the same size their fighting at 147...according to mr sin city aka i hate floyd..lol

Sin City:
lol.. you don't even know me.. so please shut the **** up. thank you

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Guess I made him mad. He's not over Cotto getting smashed yet. Floyd and Oscar the same size? Hilarious.

and middleweight

lets just put this ******ed argument to rest and lets agree with sincity! This was pretty funny though. I don't think I have EVER heard anyone argue that floyd and oscar the same size..Geezus!!!!

[Sin City]

Sin City:
lol.. you don't even know me.. so please shut the **** up. thank you

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Guess I made him mad. He's not over Cotto getting smashed yet. Floyd and Oscar the same size? Hilarious.

why would I be made of Cotto losing? It was a great fight and though I don't like a lot of Margarito fans I don't dislike Margarito. Then again.. I don't like a lot of Cotto fans either like BMWM3P. Again, cop outs and straw mans.. that's all you got cus you know I am right.

And you are forming an opinion on me when you never even talked to me before, that's why I gave you bad k.
Now if you had encountered me before that would be something different but you haven't.

[bsrizpac]

lets just put this ******ed argument to rest and lets agree with sincity! This was pretty funny though. I don't think I have EVER heard anyone argue that floyd and oscar the same size..Geezus!!!!

Floyd haters never die! It's hilarious. Always grasping at straws no matter what, desperate.

Half of them are still crying over Marg skull****ing Cotto.

[Sin City]

lets just put this ******ed argument to rest and lets agree with sincity! This was pretty funny though. I don't think I have EVER heard anyone argue that floyd and oscar the same size..Geezus!!!!

let me repost:
you don't understand my argument.. no Paul Williams isn't the same size as Floyd because they have fought at welterweight. No Pacman isn't the same size as Oscar.

What matters is what division they started at and the division they have fought in.
Y'all just trying to make strawman arguments to get out of the fact that you know I am right. That is why you wont answer the Duran question and why you are throwing irrelevant comparison out there.

What divisions did Manny and Paul start in and fight at? What divisions did Oscar and Floyd start in and what divisions have they fought at? exactly...

[ANDROID_DOES]

Can someone read those stats and tell me who the bigger guy is since someone is ignoring them. thanks.

[Sin City]

Can someone read those stats and tell me who the bigger guy is since someone is ignoring them. thanks.

Can you please answer me one question then.. Who is bigger, Duran or Mayweather??
and those stats look to be almost about even. There isn't a GIANT difference.

[ANDROID_DOES]

let me repost:
you don't understand my argument.. no Paul Williams isn't the same size as Floyd because they have fought at welterweight. No Pacman isn't the same size as Oscar.

What matters is what division they started at and the division they have fought in.
Y'all just trying to make strawman arguments to get out of the fact that you know I am right. That is why you wont answer the Duran question and why you are throwing irrelevant comparison out there.

What divisions did Manny and Paul start in and fight at? What divisions did Oscar and Floyd start in and what divisions have they fought at? exactly...

you sound like a 13 year old girl finishing every thing with "EXACTLY" but your the only one agreeing with yourself. Keep going though im kind of board right now.