Andrade/Bute Post Fight Conference

[Taranazan]

wonder the Bute fanboys keep ignoring this information

6. The bell will not save a boxer in any round of the bout. If a boxer is "downed" just before the 3-minute bell in any round, the referee's count shall continue and the bell will not ring until the boxer rises and his hands clear the floor.

wonder the Andrade fanboys keep ignoring that one... BTW, in a real count, Bute would've been up at 7 leaning on the ropes, and standing in front of the ref at 8, with his arm on a rope, not necessarily because he needed it but to make an easier recovery. Watch this again if you don't believe me. Moreover, as mentionned by the rule #6, he didn't even have to be ready to fight, because the round was over. To stand was enough.

Let's be clear: I want a rematch. But no rule have been broken, only the interpretation is subject to discussions. The referee is the one whose judgment matters. And that referee have been accepted by Andrade's clan.

[Hous]

IDK everything about the fight, but this is what boxrec says:
1. Bute dominated the fight until 12th round, KDed Andrade in 10th.
2. With 5 seconds left in the fight andrande sends Bute down.
3. Ref counts to six and tells Andrade to get back to his corner. Boxrec says Andrade appeared to be in his corner. The ref continued the count 24 seconds later and Bute was up.

Sounds like a robbery indeed. I understand the champion gets the nood in close fights, but this just looks like it should have been a KO.

[Taranazan]

IDK everything about the fight, but this is what boxrec says:
1. Bute dominated the fight until 12th round, KDed Andrade in 10th.
2. With 5 seconds left in the fight andrande sends Bute down.
3. Ref counts to six and tells Andrade to get back to his corner. Boxrec says Andrade appeared to be in his corner. The ref continued the count 24 seconds later and Bute was up.

Sounds like a robbery indeed. I understand the champion gets the nood in close fights, but this just looks like it should have been a KO.

But Boxrec don't say at what time Bute was up. He was up after what is said to be 24 seconds (I doubt it was that long...) but when did he got up?? Also, what does "in the corner" mean??? It is all interpretation
IMO, it is not a robbery, nor would it've been if the ref had stop the fight.

[deuce_drop]

6. The bell will not save a boxer in any round of the bout. If a boxer is "downed" just before the 3-minute bell in any round, the referee's count shall continue and the bell will not ring until the boxer rises and his hands clear the floor.

wonder the Andrade fanboys keep ignoring that one... BTW, in a real count, Bute would've been up at 7 leaning on the ropes, and standing in front of the ref at 8, with his arm on a rope, not necessarily because he needed it but to make an easier recovery. Watch this again if you don't believe me. Moreover, as mentionned by the rule #6, he didn't even have to be ready to fight, because the round was over. To stand was enough.

Let's be clear: I want a rematch. But no rule have been broken, only the interpretation is subject to discussions. The referee is the one whose judgment matters. And that referee have been accepted by Andrade's clan.

as soon as the fighter hits the canvas the count starts, and by that measure, there is no way bute beats the count, he gets up at 10, he doesn't beat it, but as he sits in the corner and the count not only starts late, but gets interupted by the ref, THEN to start on a number that he already picked up the count on (6) he counts 6 after he already counted 6 then the next number he says is 9!!!!! but in real time 20+ seconds have lapsed and within that 20+ seconds, in real time, and with a unbiased ref, bute would've been counted out...................

and you know that bute got a HUGE HOMETOWN GIFT, and that he will not take a rematch, not unless forced to............

and when is bute gonna fight outside of his over protective hometown???? at this stage in his career? now he's champ.....

[deanrw]

This was the worst robbery I have seen in a long long time. They simply gave Bute break after break. Capped off with the cream of the crop of breaks.

Being a Canadian, I found it to be completely embarrassing. Andrade is a proud honest warrior who came here chasing his dream, captured it, then got it stolen from him.

Hang tough Andrade, your dream will come true!!

[Taranazan]

as soon as the fighter hits the canvas the count starts, and by that measure, there is no way bute beats the count, he gets up at 10, he doesn't beat it, but as he sits in the corner and the count not only starts late, but gets interupted by the ref, THEN to start on a number that he already picked up the count on (6) he counts 6 after he already counted 6 then the next number he says is 9!!!!! but in real time 20+ seconds have lapsed and within that 20+ seconds, in real time, and with a unbiased ref, bute would've been counted out...................

and you know that bute got a HUGE HOMETOWN GIFT, and that he will not take a rematch, not unless forced to............

and when is bute gonna fight outside of his over protective hometown???? at this stage in his career? now he's champ.....

When Bute is knocked down, the ref doesn't start to count immediately (he asks Andrade to go to a neutral corner). But that is absolutely normal, and that is the reason why a timekeeper ALWAYS starts the count, then the ref continues it. So when the ref starts the count ( I think at 4) Bute is still down, looking at his corner with an arm on a rope. When the ref count 6 (the first time, I mean...) Bute is already getting up, and that is before the ref turns to Andrade to ask him to return to his corner. So Bute is standing, leaning on a rope, between 6 and the supposed 7. Then he turns to face the ref (who is now talking to Andrade). The French PPV made a real time count, and Bute was up on time. I agree that the ref made a BIG mistake by counting 6 twice though.

One thing I want to say is about the "over protective hometown". To be honest, I hate when people say that. There are so much american champs who haven't ever fought outside the US, why is that correct in their case than for the foreign boxers??? Why is a win more important if it has been done in the US than in Canada, the UK or anywhere else??? This is IMO a very egocentric point of view.

There are as much hometown decisions in a country than in another (as long as both have adequate legislation). In Bute's case, if there isn't a rematch, he will probably fight in europe in February/March.

[egreezy]

despite whenever he got up at what second in the count, bute was tkod regardless and unable to continue

[MaYaN_SuN]

I don't think Bute would have been able to continue.

The guy was on ***** street.












Now every fighter even if they are a hugging weak ass hugging fighter like Bute, they're gonna try to out point Andrade from now on. So Librado needs to work on his jab, work on touching his guy with his jab and then moving HIMSELF backwards. Make the coward come to him. Make the runner/clincher devlope a need to come after him.

Then just unleash hell.

[flapperhead]

cmon man be honest with urself. if it was the other was around would you stillstick to yer comments???.. ..bute was up in 9, so andrade had at least 15 more seconds to club a guy that was out on his feet.. christ you saw him stagger to his corner at the bell.. the ref was a thief and stole the fight -plain and simple....