Has Hopkins surpassed Moore as the greatest "old" fighter in boxing history?

[Miburo]

It has perhaps reached the point where it can be argued.

Note that I'm excluding Foreman from this discussion because Foreman, while good as an old fighter, triumphed in no small part due to circumstances and could not overcome many of the more skilled younger fighters he faced. Foreman was probably a top 10 heavyweight in the early 90s, but not a true leader of the division even when he won the title.

[Silencers]

I'm not sure, Moore still winning past the age of 40 was quite incredible to me, he already had over 180 fights by that point and was still beating good fighters past the age of 40 but Hopkins' performance against Pavlik was probably better than any of Moore's past 40.

[Squabbles94806]

I think so...Foreman and Hopkins are probably the top "old" fighters. There are others, Foreman and Hopkins are the only two that stand out.

Holyfield is trying to get into that bracket, but i think at this point everyone is just hoping he doesn't get hurt.

[larryx]

Hopkins Atg Fighter Over The Age Of 40!!!!!! He's Kick Holyfields Ass Right Now..

[ßringer]

Bernard is in a class of his own, I have been telling people here that for years. It's good to finally be vindicated.

[TheGreatA]

Like I've said before, it depends on whether you believe Moore was born in 1913 or 1916.

If you believe Archie Moore was born in 1913 like many do, he could claim wins over Harold Johnson, Joey Maxim, Nino Valdes, Bob Baker, Bobo Olson, Yvon Durelle and others + heavyweight title challenges against Marciano, Patterson and Ali, all past 40.

That puts him above Hopkins who beat Tarver, Wright and Pavlik and had close fights with Calzaghe and Taylor in my opinion.

[Jim Jeffries]

How you could exclude George Foreman after his performance at almost 49 against a 25 year old, 227 lb Briggs is beyond me. Add to that his KO stoppage of an undefeated Moorer and several more good wins over top HWs all when he was significantly older than Hopkins, and he has to be included.

[Scott9945]

IMO Hopkins is the best 40+ boxer ever, and maybe even the best 40+ atlete ever. Archie Moore's dubious birthdate is the only credible challenge to him.

[Sin City]

Moore fought people his size at his old age.. Hopkins makes fighter balloon up 10+ pounds so he has the advantage.

[WhoreUs]

moore > hopkins

archie was older than he was listed.

archie was like 50 yrs. old in his wins over durelle for the 175 belts.