What's the diffrence between taking a knee and tapping out

[Xyei]

when you tap out, you lose.

Exactly. If you take a knee, you don't lose the fight in boxing. If you take a knee in MMA you'll just get a knee to the face. When you tap in MMA, the fight's over.

[Xyei]

In MMA it's okay to be a quitter. It's encouraged.

Most of the time when they tap, it's because their arm is about to be broken. I've seen fights where the guy refuses to tap and gets his fucking arm broken. Forest Griffen (the current LHW champ) got caught with an arm bar and his arm broke. Instead of tapping out, knocked his opponent the fuck out with his good arm. I wouldn't call that a quitter.

Stick to topics that you know something about.

[Mr. Ryan]

Sergei Lyakhovich took a knee against Lamon Brewster, came back to win.

Taking a knee is not a form of submission, it is the realization that you need a reprieve, however brief, to make a stand. You could say that Gatti took a knee in the first fight with Ward, was that him quitting?

Some people...

[MikeBrew328]

In MMA it's okay to be a quitter. It's encouraged.

LOL. It's a sport of quitters.

[bsrizpac]

Most of the time when they tap, it's because their arm is about to be broken. I've seen fights where the guy refuses to tap and gets his fucking arm broken. Forest Griffen (the current LHW champ) got caught with an arm bar and his arm broke. Instead of tapping out, knocked his opponent the fuck out with his good arm. I wouldn't call that a quitter.

Stick to topics that you know something about.

I know more about MMA than 99 percent of this board since i started following it in 94-95 and training in it. But thanks for your help.

Please see any early fights where guys like Pat Smith tapped out from rabbit punches while mounted by Royce "KO" Gracie. It happened/happens more often than you think.

Basically the difference is this: In MMA a loss is not a big deal to the fans. That's because in MMA the promotion (in most cases the UFC) is more important to the average fans than the fighters. Also there are more ways to lose. So tapping out or quitting is not seen as a big deal.

You can see it in BJJ or ADCC training all the time. Light rolling has a lot of taps and it's not a big deal.

In boxing sparring you just can't have that.

[Xyei]

I know more about MMA than 99 percent of this board since i started following it in 94-95 and training in it. But thanks for your help.

Please see any early fights where guys like Pat Smith tapped out from rabbit punches while mounted by Royce "KO" Gracie. It happened/happens more often than you think.

Basically the difference is this: In MMA a loss is not a big deal to the fans. That's because in MMA the promotion (in most cases the UFC) is more important to the average fans than the fighters. Also there are more ways to lose. So tapping out or quitting is not seen as a big deal.

You can see it in BJJ or ADCC training all the time. Light rolling has a lot of taps and it's not a big deal.

In boxing sparring you just can't have that.

I didn't mean to sound condescending. I thought you were just being smug. I guess I misunderstood what you meant. The bold is a very good point. Many top MMA fighters have records with multiple losses and you're right, it's not that big of a deal. If a guy taps to prevent his arm from being snapped then it's accepted. There are so many ways to lose an MMA fight other than simply getting knocked out. In boxing; a lot of times; if a guy gets 2 losses he is a bum.

[bsrizpac]

I didn't mean to sound condescending. I thought you were just being smug. I guess I misunderstood what you meant. The bold is a very good point. Many top MMA fighters have records with multiple losses and you're right, it's not that big of a deal. If a guy taps to prevent his arm from being snapped then it's accepted. There are so many ways to lose an MMA fight other than simply getting knocked out. In boxing; a lot of times; if a guy gets 2 losses he is a bum.

A loss in boxing breaks most fighters in a way MMA never can. If you've ever really been even beat up in boxing sparring you can feel it. It's much different mentally than being tapped out in a BJJ rolling session or even getting tossed around in wrestling or being TKOed very quickly in an MMA type setting.

Now, OLD MMA did allow for those kinds of horrific beatings.

See: Don Frye vs. Bitetti. Amuari was never the same. Warning: That one is hard to watch.

[PoetryInMotion]

In MMA it's okay to be a quitter. It's encouraged.

Yeah they even walk around with shirts and apperal that say Tapout. Imagine boxing shirts that say Takeknee.

[bsrizpac]

I didn't mean to sound condescending. I thought you were just being smug. I guess I misunderstood what you meant. The bold is a very good point. Many top MMA fighters have records with multiple losses and you're right, it's not that big of a deal. If a guy taps to prevent his arm from being snapped then it's accepted. There are so many ways to lose an MMA fight other than simply getting knocked out. In boxing; a lot of times; if a guy gets 2 losses he is a bum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD4143F7nAo

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Warning: It's brutal.

[PoetryInMotion]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD4143F7nAo

Here it is. It won't let me imbed.

Warning: It's brutal.

why is one not wearing gloves?????