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    HERES YOUR PROOF: Hopkins FOULED rematch Jan 07

    HOPKINS WANTS REMATCH WITH ROY JONES JR!
    JAN. 01. 07

    Light heavyweight king Bernard Hopkins: "Now let's get to the good stuff. Let's get to Winky Wright, the reason that a fight between me and Winky Wright makes sense is because Winky Wright is not a partner in Golden Boy so there's no conflict of interest. Winky Wright is his own independent promoter and he subs out to us to be his mouthpiece. On that note, it will be a fight that I am interested in. Winky Wright is own man and if he wants to take on Bernard Hopkins at 175 for the supremacy of being the undisputed light heavyweight champion of the world, so be it. That fight is a lot more interesting than a Tarver fight, so if Winky Wright wants that fight, and I have to give Winky credit because he always speaks for himself, Winky comes on ********** and says that Jermain Taylor doesn't want to fight,but if he would like to take on Bernard Hopkins it can happen.

    "And the Julian Jackson of this era is Miranda, the guy who beat Willie Gibbs a few weeks ago, I'm not funny or nothing, but I love the guy. I think every promoter or manager who has a middleweight contender or a middleweight with a belt is scared to death of this guy. I'm not gay but I love him.

    "Any of the big fights out there that can be made they just need to step up and fight the Godfather. That's what I am right now I'm like the f**king Godfather so if they want to see the big boy they need to call me Corleone, in 2007 I'm kicking ass and taking names.

    GL: (cutting in) I'm kind of like the Godfather in this business because when the fighters want to get it out there they call Leon.

    Bernard Hopkins: "Now that we know Winky could get it, let's move on to Joe Calzaghe. He's talking about breaking my record saying I should have fought him two or three years ago. Calzaghe is an idiot being programmed to say certain things by his promoter. On top of that there's super middleweight with more defenses than he has, but whenever he's ready to finish drinking his tea over there in England and get his feelings hurt, we could fight in New York City, Atlantic City, Vegas or anywhere in the United States that he wants to fight. But he's not the star of the fight and I'm not going to go over there on a boat, ferry of plane because I'm not broke so if he wants to fight Joe Calzaghe and Frank Warren all they need to do is call Leon, the Godfather. Frank Warren knows me very well and he knows that I'm no dummy and he needs to understand through **********.com that he has to put up or shut up. But this needs to be clear, I'm not on the time scheulde of anyone else. If they want to play games and try to wait until the end of next year it'll be too late. No matter what you job is, there comes a time where you have a cut off point of doing what you do.

    "They have to understand that I'm not saying this to play games and I'm not looking for leverage, my record speaks for itself. My pay-per-view numbers over the years, if you believe what Mark Taffet says and I do, I've become a star by the numbers. Excluding the De La Hoya fight, because everyone does big numbers with Oscar, but excluding that number in 2004 when we did over a million buys, with everyone else I promoted those fights and I held my own to carry the promotions.

    "Now let's move on to the last but definitely not least, Roy Jones Jr. If me and Roy Jones are to fight I would want it to be in the contract that Roy has to promote the fight. He has to show up at every press conference and he has to talk to every reporter to promote the fight of the legends. Floyd Mayweather and Oscar is the fight, and this fight should be named "The Legends." Roy is going to read this, you know why? Because you're going to do what you do type it up and then call Roy. Then you're going tell him Bernard said he ain't got no problem fighting you and he wants to make sure you're going to support the promotion. Roy has problems with promoting the fight and that's the only thing that he scares me on, is he going to be a businessman knowing that we have to sell this fight as the Legends? Forget about the two guys who knocked him out because I dominated both of them. I stopped Glen Johnson when he was undefeated and Tarver was one of the easiest fights of my career. That's the reason they say styles make fights. Jermain Taylor and Bernard Hopkins will always be a difficult fight. Why? Because he likes to hold, swing wild and he's got money and politics behind him.

    "Kassim Ouma, who is a lightweight, a featherweight, gave him hell. I picked Jermain to have an easy night for that one, and Kassim is with us. I thought they finally found a fight to make Jermain look like the killer they try to portray him as. I thought he was going to win easy, I mean he's big and he's strong and he's eating that all that country pork. The fans aren't ******, that's why they love me."

    GL: Let's say Roy Jones Jr agrees to promote the event, the concern that Jones expressed to me as it relates to a rematch with you is that Bernard would want all of the money.

    BH: "Roy Jones has my number and I have his number, as a matter of fact I'll read it to you let me go through my phone real quick It's 1-850-(**********). This is the fight between the legends and you don't treat a legend like a piece of ****. I will not treat Roy like he is anything less than a legend. I will not treat him like a washed up bum, because he's not. Roy Jones inspired me and he will go to the Hall of Fame on his first ballot. This is not blowing smoke up his ass, but Roy and I came up during the same era. Our fight in 1993 on the undercard of Rid**** Bowe and Jesse Ferguson, I remember it like it was yesterday. That fight there made me who I am today. If it weren't for Roy Jones Jr. I wouldn't know as much about the business of how to prepare for a big fight with the lights and the cameras on you. I had to go to school and Roy Jones Jr's experience in that kind of situation taught me a lot and helped make me who I am today. Winky Wright recently said in a ********** interview and he's 100% correct, that Roy Jones Jr. really started the whole thing with fighters being independent and doing their own thing. He paid his dues and he was the Michael Jordan of boxing. The things that he did I would have been knocked out years ago for trying. Throwing a left hook from the other side of the ring, off balanced power shots without using the jab."

    GL: How do you think Hopkins-Jones II does on PPV?

    BH: "I think it would do great numbers. I think of all the fights we're talking about, I think me and Roy Jones has a great possibility of getting bigger numbers than any fight out there for me and that's including the Tarver rematch. You're talking about the legends. If Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson were going to play one on one to 22 are you telling me people wouldn't buy tickets to watch that? This is not about belts, this is about legends. Demetrius needs a belt and the fighters coming up need a belt, the fighters who aren't marquee need belts because that's what gives them life to breathe. That's what I needed. Without the belt I wouldn't have become undisputed and I would have never gotten the De La Hoya fight. A fight with Roy Jones Jr is a big fight. We fought before and we are different fighters than we were 14 years ago."

    GL: Your 1993 fight with Roy Jones Jr is the last fight that you truly feel you lost, I imagine avenging that loss means something to you.

    BH: "Roy Jones Jr and Clinton Mitchell are the only people that I believe I lost to. I have no ill feelings towards Jermain Taylor and the support I get from the fans on what happened in those two fights speaks for itself. Avenging that loss would mean a lot to me, **** it would mean a lot to me if I could get Clinton Mitchell back into the ring. (laughs) Roy wants to be treated with respect for what he did for boxing and I want the same thing Roy does, respect. Roy will have nothing to worry about when it comes to getting treated fair, I will treat him like the legend he is."



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    ROYS RESPONSE
    JAN 01, 07

    ROY JONES JR TO BERNARD HOPKINS: JUST SEND ME THE CONTRACT FOR 50-50 AND THE FIGHT IS ON!


    "After I get done with Bernard again, I'm going after Tarver!"

    GL: Now that you're aware of Bernard Hopkins interest in the rematch for his July 14 HBO PPV date, what are your thoughts on the situation? "What can I say? If he's going to treat me fairly I be there to promote everything. It's like he said this is a fight of legends. I am also a businessman, I love making money, I enjoy working and I enjoy promoting as long as I'm working for myself. I don't want to work too much for nobody else but if we're going to do it that way where we're both promoting it and we're both making money on it, why would I not promote it? I'm not ******, I'm just crazy."

    GL: So these concerns that he has about you not wanting to help promote the fight are non-issues?

    Roy Jones Jr: "He has no worries about that. He has no worries about that because that rematch would be the biggest fight of the year, it would be the biggest selling fight of the year. Out of all the people out there I didn't think he was interested in doing too much fighting, but if that's what he wants, hell yeah I'll fight him and I'll do everything necessary to make sure it's promoted right."

    GL: But it's very important that he does as he said and recognize you as a legend realizing it takes two to tango.

    RJJ: "That's right because without me it's no fight and without him there's no fight. I bring as much to the table as he does and as long as he agrees to that, we could go to work, I'm ready."

    GL: Obviously Bernard's biggest motivation would be to avenge his 1993 loss to you. He feels that's the last fight he truly lost...

    RJJ: (cutting in) "I understand that and I compeltely agree with him because I think that's the last time he lost a fight as well. I knew he would be man enough to avenge that because he's a true champion so I knew he would be back and it would just be a matter of time. Jermain never really beat him and as easily as he beat Tarver, that's how easy I would beat Jermain so it's like he said styles make fights. We'll make it happen and we'll shut those doors down, all he has to do is let me know the date and when the promotion starts and I'll be ready to go."

    GL: You made it clear to me that you want to get one more of those belts around your waist. Bernard holds no sanctioning body belt, but he does hold the status and recognition of being the light heavyweight king.

    RJJ: "It's like he said, this is legend versus legend. Damn a belt, when you have two legends in there the belt doesn't matter. It's just like he said if Michael Jordan was going to play one on one with Magic Johnson or Larry Bird, people would want to see who's going to win. That's what he's saying and I completely agree wit him."

    GL: In our last few convo's you've pretty much shrugged off the idea of fighting Hopkins again because you felt that since he beat Tarver he was going to ask for the sun, moon and stars...

    RJJ: (cutting in) "But he just cleared that up for me. If he's going to treat me like the legend that I am we're both coming to the table together and it's a wrap. I give him my word that I will promote everything. If we're fighting and we're both making money for one another we got us a 50-50 deal because we're both legends and one of can't make this fight without the other one, then I'm willing to do whatever it takes to promote just like he is."

    GL: But you just said 50-50, would it take parity to get the fight done?

    RJJ: "It got to be parity as long as we're getting parity we'll be good. But I didn't really get into it with you before because I don't want to be arguing with nobody about who deserves what. When I was on top I was making sure that us fighters had a chance in this game, I held it down for everybody for as long as I could. I made them look at us differently about us being the fighters and us being the ones to get what we deserve. Me and him fighting and we're making partity, we're going to do what we're supposed to do so why wouldn't I promote it?."

    GL: Even though you've been reluctant to discuss the Hopkins rematch, is Hopkins the fight you always wanted the most?

    RJJ: "Not really because I knew he would come back. He's a Capricorn, I knew he'd be back. A Capricorn has to come back and Capricorn's can't say no. When I get through Hopkins again, I'm going to get right back at Tarver's ass because as long as I'm still here and he's still fighting he's going to have to whoop me again because I will be back. Capricorn's don't stop, they got to know that."

    GL: How does a fight with you and Hopkins play out 14 years after the original?

    RJJ: "I have no elaboration on that until the contract is signed so don't call me to talk about him no more until we have a signed contract. If he's going to do what he says they're going to do then he has to go out there and get the contract to me as soon as possible."

    GL: Who does Golden Boy Promotions need to contact to try and make this fight?

    RJJ: "Roy Jones Jr. All they have to do is call my office and talk to Linda Padgett and we'll look over them right away. And tell him he's not going to have to worry about me promoting the fight, whatever we need to do to promote the fight Roy Jones Jr will be there."

    GL: If it's not going to be Hopkins for whatever reason, has there been any update...

    RJJ: (cutting in) "Not really. I've been leaving things open because I knew he was coming. They were talking about some fight for the WBO #1, but I wouldn't want to waste time with those guys if I could fight Bernard. And he's got to want it because there's nothing else this big out there for him so he can't help but to want it. He's a Capricorn he got to want this."


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      ROY JONES JR: "BERNARD USES DE LA HOYA AS THE FRONT MAN TO F**K YOU. HE'S CUTE, BUT I DON'T DO DUDES!"
      Jan. 27, 07

      Jones-Hopkins II on the verge of collapse!

      Shortly after the clock struck twelve ********** received a call from former pound for pound king Roy Jones Jr, who informed us that his potential mega-fight with Bernard Hopkins is in serious jeopardy following Team Hopkins making Jones a take it or leave it offer. "We (Lou DiBella and Roy Jones Jr)started the talks and he wanted to show us where they were coming from so I said okay, let's talk. We talk and we work on a few things, I had some ideas and I told him how I wanted to do this and he was cool with it and he said, 'Roy, I just want to work with you.' I said alright, and then Schaefer and them sent the contract and we're looking at it and there was a lot of things that we had to change and they said they weren't going to change anything, they didn't want to make any changes. It's like I told you before, I knew there was going to be some bull**** involved and that's why I didn't get excited about it. To be real with you, I haven't even started training yet because I knew something like this was going to happen." Read on to see what the offer was, but based on the way RJ was dropping F-Bombs during this must read interview, saying he's pissed would be an understatement.

      GL: You know I keep my ear to the ground, I heard they sent you an offer for 50-50 but after they took 25% off the top...

      Roy Jones Jr: "That's right and that's not going to happen. Why do they get to take something off the top? If it's a 50-50 split, it ain't no 50-50 split with them and their whole team taking it off the top you feel me? How are they going to do that? A 50-50 split after they take 25% off the top, what the f**k? Is that a 50-50 split for real?

      GL: That sounds like 75-25.

      Roy Jones Jr: "You feel where I'm coming from? That's exactly what that is. I was like hell no, are y'all serious."

      GL: And when your team went back to them trying to negotiate...

      RJJ: "They said they weren't changing nothing. Come on dawg, a 50-50 split after they take 25% off the top. What kind of f**king 50-50 split is that? That's 75-25 all day where I'm from. I told you I should have known better. I told you they were going to come. Now I figured out what it is, I thought Bernard was going to do what he said and be serious to treat me like a man. But what it is, he uses De La Hoya as the front man to f**k you. He's cute, but I don't do dudes."

      GL: It sounds like the fight is on the verge of collapsing...

      RJJ: (cutting in) "Well that's a collapse right there because that's not working. You feel where I'm coming from? I felt Bernard was dead serious when he said what he said, but then he let Schaefer send this **** and have Oscar f**k you, but that's like I said I don't do dudes. I'd rather not have it f**k it. Y'all go you're own way, I'm sure they'll find someone you could beat like that, but that's not how I roll."

      GL: When did this happen?

      RJJ: "This main part with them not wanting to change nothing in the contract just happened. He called you and told you that he was going to treat me straight and give me a 50-50 deal. I can send you a copy of this motherf**ker. It's got 25% off the top and then we go 50-50, but that ain't no motherf**king 50-50."

      GL: What is the 25% off the top supposed to be for?

      RJJ: "They're saying it's for them to go find the money, so I said let me go find the money and I'll take 2% off the top what's wrong with that? You call them motherf**kers and tell them I thought it was a bunch of bull****, but now you know it's a bunch of bull**** and they didn't want to fight Roy. They're using this as a negotiating ploy to fight someone else, maybe they want to fight Tarver. But if you ask me if wants to fight me that's bull****. It's not really a secret he doesn't want to fight me because if he would have come with 50-50 like he said the fight would have been signed. I want you to go on the wire and tell them that I said it, I should have known better. I thought maybe he'd have nothing to lose. He already beat Tarver and he never really lost to Jermain so I thought he was going to try and go out in style by fighting me to avenge his loss. He says he's going to do to the 50-50 and then instead of him coming t f**k me, he sends them to do it."

      GL: Are you holding Hopkins guilty by association here?

      RJJ: "If he knows this which I'm sure he knows this, then yep he's guilty by association you're right. He says he has my number but he ain't call me, they called me coming with this bull****. If he would have come with the fair deal the fight would be done, if he's not going to come with what he said they don't even need to waste no more time. If they said let's do this the right way and co-promote and you take 12.5% off the top and we take 12.5% off the top that sounds like 50-50 split to me. Don't it to you?

      GL: Yes.

      RJJ: "Otherwise what's wrong with me taking 25% off the top? 50-50 isn't 50-50 when they're taking 25% off the top. He said he was going to give me 50-50 isn't that what he told you?

      GL: He said he was going to treat you like the legend that you are.

      RJJ: "Is this how they treat me like the legend I am?"

      GL: Are you even thinking about other fights yet?

      RJJ: "I'm not going to waste my time with this, that's a joke. They said 50-50 and look what they came with, that should tell you this is a joke."

      GL: Will you continue to use Lou DiBella as an intermediary between you and the network to get you back on HBO in a fight of significance?

      RJJ: "I don't know. We always look for the best people for the job and he had worked with them (Golden Boy) the last few times so he knows their contracts and he was definitely the best man for that job."

      There will be much more to follow with Roy Jones Jr so stay tuned.

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        ROY JONES JR TO BERNARD HOPKINS: IF YOU REALLY THINK YOU COULD WHOOP ME THEN LET'S DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, 60% TO THE WINNER AND 40% TO THE LOSER."
        Jan. 30, 07

        Last night **********.com received a call from former pound for pound king Roy Jones Jr, who wanted to make this final proposition to Bernard Hopkins. "If he's so sure of himself and he doesn't want to do 50-50 and he's not going to change the contract, let's do this. If he wants to fight and this is my last offer and this ain't for me, this is for the fans. If Bernard Hopkins wants to fight Roy Jones Jr. and he doesn't want to do 50-50 like he promised he would do. If he don't want to do 50-50, I'm willing to go at it with him where the winner takes 60 and the loser takes 40. And we could sign that tomorrow." You definitely don't want to miss what else his Royness had to say. ONLY ON **********...as usual.

        GL: A press release was issued stating that you're going to be working with Lou DiBella, can you give us some thoughts on that?

        Roy Jones Jr: "Lou DiBella lately has been the best person as far as dealing with contracts. He knows all of the in's and out's of the contracts. But if they want to do it how I want to do it then I don't need Lou DiBella either. I don't need nobody to do it how I want to do it, and how I want to do it is 60 to the winner and 40 to the loser. I don't need Lou DiBella and I don't need Lou DiBella for that. If they want to do their contract, of course I'm going to use someone who knows what their doing and he's been dealing with them since Hopkins fought Jermain Taylor. If you feel that you're the man and you're going to win, 60% to the winner and 40% to the loser. If you really want to fight me it's that simple. He don't need no lawyer, I don't need Lou DiBella or nobody, I could draw that contract up myself. It don't take a whole lot of talking or a whole lot of negotiating. If you really think you could whoop me then let's do it the right way, 60% to the winner and 40% to the loser."

        "He's talking about the fans voting and he lost that so what else does he want you to do? That should be enough to do it for 50-50 right there with 60% of the fans saying that I have the better legacy. That should enough for us to go 50-50 right there, but if you don't want to go 50-50 we could do it like real champs are supposed to do it, 60 to the winner and 40 to the loser and call it a day and we could sign that tomorrow and then we could fight.



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          BERNARD HOPKINS: "OUR OFFER IS FAIR!"
          02/01/07
          Hopkins wants to know who has the better legacy, read the interview and cast your vote

          Not surprisingly ********** received a call from light heavyweight king Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins early Saturday morning. In this must read exclusive interview Hopkins responds to our recent exclusive interview with Roy Jones Jr and much more. "First of all it was a great article. He was disrespectful to De La Hoya, but first I would like to say that I'm looking forward to Demetrius fighting on the undercard of Barrera and marching towards the championship level this year. I'm also expecting 2007 to be a breakout year for Rock Allen and Ishe Smith has a tough fight coming up that he's excited about also. Kassim Ouma will be coming back this year and we're working on things for him coming up. Shane Mosley, Barrera and the Super Bowl with De La Hoya and Mayweather. I'm going to see you at a lot of fights so that's going to be great, but now that I've got that out of the way we can go ahead and respond to the article that was brought to my attention. Roy Jones Jr: Bernard Hopkins uses De La Hoya as the front man to f**k you. He's cute, but I don't do dudes. I read this Greg about ten times, the headline and I'm looking at this and I'm saying."

          "Wait a minute what does De La Hoya have to do with me and Roy's negotiation other than being a promoter and giving me advice when he feels that I need it. I don't want the fans not to be interested in this fight, but I've been hearing it for a while and I'm starting to get a bit concerned for Roy. I'm wondering where his head is at. All of a sudden Roy becomes this guy using all of these curse words and that's never been Roy. I don't know if he's desperate and I know if he's lashing out because of what's happened to him during the last year or two but you win or lose in the ring. I don't understand what he's saying with that he's cute but he don't do dudes. I understand that there's been some animosity and envy with Roy pointing out that Oscar was getting all of the attention all the time. To be honest with you negotiations are negotiations Greg. Whether people agree with me or people agree with Roy, more will tell you why is Bernard wasting his time on Roy? And then you have to get into whether that's going to put a black eye on the fight or not. I've been in the gym because that's my lifestyle. Roy said he hasn't been in the gym yet, but that's not Roy. Roy works out and Roy's been in the gym. Everybody that's a veteran knows that you say things like that. Roy likes to be in shape so he's always in the gym, whether he's playing basketball or whatever he's keeping himself in shape.

          GL: I think the reason he started cursing like that is...

          Bernard Hopkins: (cutting in) This thing with he's cute, but he don't do dudes. I used my code and I went into the article and what I heard was explicit language. Listen to what I'm saying. His career has been just as long as mine professionally. We've basically started off our career at the same time and I've never heard, but that tells you a lot, for people that know, not for people who read it and get hyped over words, but the people who know personalities over the years like Greg Leon knows Bernard Hopkins, not too many reporters can say they know. But everyone has a style and I know you're style and this ain't Roy's style. When you get a guy like a Roy, who has always been on his own way of doing things whether we like it or not. He's proud of being a country boy from Pensacola, he fights his chickens and he's played basketball game before a fight and whether he got criticism for what he did. He did it because he could at that particular time and he knew he wasn't going to make a fool of himself when he did it. But this stuff with this is crazy this guy is talking like he's ****phobic or allegeding that someone is gay or something.

          GL: At the end of the day Bernard the issue people want to know about...

          BH: (cutting in again) "Don't hold your breath Roy if you think Oscar is going to respond to this. I'm responding on my behalf not to what he said but because I feel a little concerned. I've been a lot of places and I've seen a lot of things and this is not his style. I'm not calling to diss Roy, I'm just saying this is not him. This is not him. Maybe it's him now, but this is not the Roy, forget the skills and all that, but this is not the Roy from the personality side of it. I have my things, I can speak on Bernard's part of what it is and I have my opinion of what it is, I think it's a combination of Bernard Hopkins and De La Hoya being together as something that might bother Roy. Two guys like us, who when we came together people laughed at us and they threw stones at us now we are the premier promoters in this new era. Whoever got the fighters got the juice and the fighters believe they can be treated fairly and with respect under the banner of Golden Boy Promotions. There could be some envy and a little jealousy and there's probably a lot of other fighters who feel the same way. We're going to have lawsuits that aren't worthy because this is America. We're going to have backbiting, we're going to have jealousy. You have to have thick skin in this business, tough skin like leather. I just wanted to call you at 12:30 east coast time because my phone was rining to go on the internet.

          "I'm not going to get into no dog fight with Roy. I know sometimes it could be good journalism. Everyone knows what's out there. We've been on every internet and every TV show and this is the undisputed at **********.com. Whether Roy speaks, whether I speak, whether Richard Schaefer speaks, whether Lou DiBella, who I felt and believed was great to be on with Roy. I know that when Lou was with HBO Roy and Lou had differences over who Roy should have been fighting. I thought Lou was going to make this thing happen, I know we had our problems and things like that. He don't forget and I don't forget, but we're businessmen and I can honestly say we've put the hatchet to the ground. But then I get a call to see what Roy said on ********** and I'm really concerned. I can honestly say that the fans...

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            GL: So you think the offer you made was fair?

            BH: "I just beat the guy that some people think beat him three times and definiely beat him twice. The only thing I could do is move on. Right now we've got a couple of opponents on the table. Richard and I are all on the same page. They don't even come to me with nothing that deals with maybe this or maybe that. This is a team decision. We know what I want, we put it in there and we believe it's fair. Matter fact, I know it's fair. Nobody is going to be calling Bernard Hopkins up saying what about this or what about that because I'm in the position to be fair when Roy wasn't over the years. Anybody with any business sense, even fans who don't know the in's and out's unless the bits and pieces you give them and they get 90% of it accurate coming from this website. I'm going to keep moving and I don't think Roy is pressed, but I'd rather leave out the game June 10, 2006 upsetting the world who thought that Tarver was going to steam roll me going down as one of the greatest middleweights of all time and one of the greatest light heavyweights of all times, up there with Bob Foster, Michael Spinks. To go out the way Bernard Hopkins did, maybe it's God saying you don't need it. Let Roy be Roy. If this is the worst case scenario I would rather leave out on June 10, 2006 which nobody will forget in boxing history and Roy Jones can go out fighting Badi who has been my sparring partner for a couple of years.

            "To put that legacy on the table with Roy, let the ********** fans around the world in the United States, Germany, Europe, all over the world they're getting it. Everyone who has a computer. Let's do a vote and put my legacy and my record down and his legacy and record down, click A if you think Roy's is better than Hopkins' right now or click B if you think Hopkins legacy is better than Roy's and watch the votes. Hey, I might lose but I think that's good food for thought for the fans and maybe then Roy will see and understand the fans and maybe do what they want. At the end of the day we drive around in nice pretty cars and have big houses because of the fans who don't really have the money but somehow give up $50 to buy PPV. If you **** on them they **** on you and that's why they love me. Every fan in every city I go in they show me love and most importantly respect me. You know what? People look at this and say what do you expect? I waited over ten years, I've been got over that. This man ain't even in the top five and I wanted to fight the heavyweight champion of the world. But he'd rather get knocked out by Klitschko than embarrassed by a middleweight, that's good management and that's good promotion. Dennis Rappaport is very smart and he's been around for a long time. Our deal is on the table and it's an extremely fair deal when you look at the situations we're in. That's not to say that he doesn't have the ability but this is a fight that can catapult him back to the top. I have everything to lose. I ressurect his career if he beats me. He doesn't resurrect my career. If I beat Roy what they going to say? I don't know if this is going to kill the fight if you write it, but I'm being real. The fans have the opportunity to speak on it when you do the mailbags, but I have to be fair to see what the fans are talking about."

            GL: Let's say the fight with Roy doesn't happen, one of the names I've been hearing is Winky Wright is there any chance that could happen at 168?

            BH: "From 175-190 I'm dominating those divisions. The last time there's been a star at 190 is when Holyfield was there and that was a long time ago. I'm where I'm at and I'm going to stay where I'm at and as long as HBO and Mark Taffet look at me as the new 32 even though I'm 42. I'm interested in big fights. There's nothing down there at 168 or 160 and I can't make that. I was uncomfortable with it for thirteen years but I was smart enough and disciplined enough to do it without getting beat up during those year and I made history in those years. I don't need Roy to signify or justify where my career is at. Maybe the fans will respond back and tell me I'm not accurate, but I put my record and legacy on the line with my twenty defenses and all of them weren't world beaters, and let Roy put his and let people go through that and ask the fans who has the best legacy? I'm saying this to tell you, you don't have to kiss my ass or Roy's ass. I want the fans to choose A or B. It will help generate a frenzy of attention to the site. Put it on the site and let's see what happens. Fighting Roy Jones Jr right now I have everything to lose and he has nothing to lose. Roy has nothing to lose, outside of what can happen in the ring to both us of course. I have nothing to gain, oh, to win the second fight which they would say doesn't reverse the first one okay I'll give them that I have something to gain. 14 years ago I lost my first title fight to Roy and it was a boring fight but it is what it is and it was what it was. We move on, that's all I've got to say. I wanted to come on record and wanted the fans to hear my rebuttal. This isn't Roy, the Roy that goes in there saying I'm your huckleberry, that's the dangerous Roy. But now he's ****phobic talking about he doesn't do dudes. Come on dawg, that's not you. Roy can't nothing about the streets, matter fact nobody can if they haven't walked that road. I can't mention names, but a lot of important people in TV land are saying that this dude isn't the same. He would never respond, might say a few things or laugh at you, but now this joker got a garbage mouth."

            GL: Perhaps he was cursing because your offer pissed him off.

            BH: "Over the years a lot of people have pissed him off, but he's a veteran and he should know how to control that. Right now he's being delusional. It took Michael Jordan going to Washington to realize that these young boys is slamming on him and Allen Iverson almost broke his ankles doing a crossover, and you see that hasn't happened to me yet. But if I stay around long enough it will. Sometimes you think you can do it, you feel you can do it but when you get in there you're body is asking you if you're out of your mind.



            p.s. the vote ended up 60/40 in favor of roy, before they took the poll down...

            after roy won the vote, bernard didnt come back to btalk for like 2 months... i was on the webstie everyday



            it doesnt matter whose right or wrong as far as who deserves what... what matters is that bernard said hed do a 50-50 split..... and that wasnt the case

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            • T-97
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              #7
              Ain't.....................

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              • -MAKAVELLI-
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                damn reed....you really wanted to prove a point didnt you

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                • THE REED
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                  its all there


                  basically bernard came out and said hed do a 50-50...

                  thats not what the contract said

                  and then bernard basically laid out reasons as to why roy doesnt deserve it


                  WTF

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                  • Truth
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                    GL: That sounds like 75-25.

                    Roy Jones Jr: "You feel where I'm coming from? That's exactly what that is. I was like hell no, are y'all serious."

                    most definitiley not. thats a robbery...lol

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