At 160..Hopkins loses to Pav...at 175 Hops beat JT CONVINCINGLY..

[goldenglove2]

Lets not forget that Hopkins hired fitness guru Mackie Shilstone to help him put on the xtra weight at LH to where he would be in the best shape possible..this is the same guy that worked with RJJ when he went to heavy and he beat Ruiz who is limited but also seemed un beatable at the time with wins over top HW contenders..

All im saying is not only did Hopkins come up with a great game plan he also is more comfortable at that weight.

All Kelly did was NOT LOSE 10 extra pounds. He didnt go to length that Bernard did..when he moved up to fight Tarver..and look what happend when he fought Tarver.. was a once sided schooling like in the Pav fight.

Just my thoughts.oh yeah

Hopkins is a former mw champ..former LH champ and a HOF. pAV wasnt EXPOSED or OVERRATED...he was rated where he belongs..he earned his rating....

[Fulcrum29]

Lets not forget that Hopkins hired fitness guru Mackie Shilstone to help him put on the xtra weight at LH to where he would be in the best shape possible..this is the same guy that worked with RJJ when he went to heavy and he beat Ruiz who is limited but also seemed un beatable at the time with wins over top HW contenders..

All im saying is not only did Hopkins come up with a great game plan he also is more comfortable at that weight.

All Kelly did was NOT LOSE 10 extra pounds. He didnt go to length that Bernard did..when he moved up to fight Tarver..and look what happend when he fought Tarver.. was a once sided schooling like in the Pav fight.

Just my thoughts.oh yeah

Hopkins is a former mw champ..former LH champ and a HOF. pAV wasnt EXPOSED or OVERRATED...he was rated where he belongs..he earned his rating....

The **** are you talking about? Pavlik has fought 2-3 times at 170 prior to this and has fought 17 (that's over half of his fights you ***tard) fights at 164lbs+. Hopkins destroys this club fighter at any weight

[goldenglove2]

The **** are you talking about? Pavlik has fought 2-3 times at 170 prior to this and has fought 17 (that's over half of his fights you ***tard) fights at 164lbs+. Hopkins destroys this club fighter at any weight

Pav hasnt fought at THIS level at LH before.. its like PW fighting at MW...its not against top ten guys..

Hopkins fought at lh before the Tarver fight, but when he moved up to fight Tarver it was looked at as him MOVING UP..cuz he was fighting a top guy and not a stay busy fight like the one PW just had at MW.. TARD

[Ray*]

Hopkins fought at 160 for the majority of his career, I dont care what weight the fight was fought at it would have been the same outcome.

Pavlik got beat by experience not weight.

[TheManchine]

what did Pavlik show in any stage of the fight that showed you he could even be slightly competitive with Hopkins?

[T-97]

what did Pavlik show in any stage of the fight that showed you he could even be slightly competitive with Hopkins?

Pavlik looked awesome.

Then the bell rang.

[Fulcrum29]

Hopkins fought at 160 for the majority of his career, I dont care what weight the fight was fought at it would have been the same outcome.

Pavlik got beat by experience not weight.

Hopkins fought 160 at majority of his career meanwhile Pavlik was fighting mostly at 164+++ at the same time, shows what this idiot knows who started the thread

[goldenglove2]

Hopkins fought 160 at majority of his career meanwhile Pavlik was fighting mostly at 164+++ at the same time, shows what this idiot knows who started the thread

WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

explain what that has to do with anything...

[Fulcrum29]

you said that pavlik could beat hopkins at 160...idiot

[Sweet Pea 50]

Pavlik looked awesome.

Then the bell rang.

OUUUUCH......