Could this be the start of the end for Jack Loew traning Pavlik?

[deanrw]

Actually telling your fighter to hit low is disgraceful

If that is not an act of desperation I don't know what is.

[TheGreatA]

Pavlik should do what Hatton did. He could still have many good years left unless he is ruined by this loss.

This is as far as he can go with his current style and training in my opinion.

[My Name Is...]

Thats what I was thinking last night.....

Jack wasnt telling him **** except throw your jab and land your right.
He didnt tell him how to land it, where to throw it, or even how to keep correct distance.


Do you know how to beat a counter puncher??

You feint just as much as you throw. And I didnt hear Jack at all tell Kelly to feint the jab and come with a straight right. He could have said, Put your jab out their, feint the right hand, and come back with a left hook.

But he didnt tell him ****. Jack is a limited trainer with a world class fighter. That is as blunt as I can be. Kelly was winning all those other fights in spite of Loew, not because of Loew. Remember, when **** got thick, Miguel Diaz was telling him what to do in the second JT fight.

[Sin City]

His advice stemmed to "Double jab right hand", "You gotta double your jab Kelly", "Low blow him". Pavlik should get another trainer for sure.

that's good advice considering the dirty fighter he was fighting.. ****, bernard cheats all the time.

[TheGreatA]

that's good advice considering the dirty fighter he was fighting.. ****, bernard cheats all the time.

How did he cheat against Pavlik?

[jdubb863]

Jack Loew is a disgrace!.. He tells his fighter "hit him in the nuts"... He keeps telling him "double jab, right hand" when its not even working and i thought it was so amatuerish when he said "you have to throw more punches thats how calzaghe beat him" or something like... i think pavlik brought himself up with his tuffness and power. jack loew had nothing to do with success.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

His advice stemmed to "Double jab right hand", "You gotta double your jab Kelly", "Low blow him". Pavlik should get another trainer for sure.

I hate Jack Loew...but i never heard that.

And why didn't Merchant or Steward harp on that?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Is that what I heard? Man I thought I heard Loew say that but said, no couldn't be.

Pavlik is too stubborn to drop him. They rose to the top together and will stay that way through thick and thin.

People said the same thing about Hatton-Graham.

Fighters wise up.

[S A M U R A I]

I mean it got to the point where Kelly wasnt even listening to him anymore and Loew telling Pavlik to hit Bhop low.

Loew can only teach Pavlik so much, and i'm sure top rank is already hinting at Pavlik to drop him.

What do you all think?

I hope so. Jack Loew is useless, and I knew this way before the Hopkins fight.

Did you see Loew whisper in Kelly's ear that he needs to increase his output because "that's how Calzaghe beat Hopkins"? That comment just sealed it for me, on top of all the barking of useless instructions in between rounds to double up on his "f***ing" jab. As if that'd work. Jack Loew doesn't know what he's talking about. He treats Kelly like a school kid. Kelly should KO Jack Loew and find someone better. Maybe Enzo Calzaghe. LOL.



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[Sin City]

How did he cheat against Pavlik?

he always head butts and rabit punches, holds and hits, etc.