Jack Loew: We Have Plan B, C + D!!!

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  • Kris Silver
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    #11
    I think they got stuck on more fundamental aspects of boxing to even get plan A going.

    Loew was imploring him to double up on the jab and Pavlik retorted; stop talking about my flab.

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    • sparked_85
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      #12
      Originally posted by Silencers
      Jab right hand, double jab right hand, jab right hand to the body. It's all I could think of.
      He needed to get in close and shorten his punches right up. I don't think he had the footspeed, the head movement or the ability to come in in angles. After the fight it looks like a horrible style match up for Pav. lol.

      Calzaghe was literally stabbing Hopkins with little shots like a bayonnet. At least they landing, scoring and making Hopkins counter, move and taking him out his comfort zone and ultimately making him dog tired.

      Calzaghe is a veteran who knows how to win even when he's having a hard night, Pavlik is a bulldozer, a good one, but thats what he is
      Last edited by sparked_85; 10-19-2008, 09:13 AM.

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      • Silencers
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        #13
        Originally posted by MacChamp
        Didn't you hear jack loew to hit Hopkins in the balls?

        Jack Loew=
        Of course! The jab low blow. I forgot about that.

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        • Silencers
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          #14
          Originally posted by sparked_85
          He needs to get in close and shorten his punches right up.

          Calzaghe was literally stabbing Hopkins with little shots like a bayonnet. At least they landing, scoring and making Hopkins counter, move and taking him out his comfort zone and ultimately making him dog tired.

          Calzaghe is a veteran who knows how to win even when he's having a hard night, Pavlik is a bulldozer, a good one, but thats what he is
          Pavlik isn't an inside fighter, most of his punches on the inside end up being slaps because he's not used to shortening up his punches, apart from his right hook to the body which is a good punch on the inside. This is part of the reason why I think he should think about getting someone new to take over main training duties, he needs to improve in these areas if he wants to get to the next level.

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          • Pollo Boricua
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            #15
            Kelly should have punched him in the balls... then a sidekick to the head

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            • sparked_85
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              #16
              Originally posted by Silencers
              Pavlik isn't an inside fighter, most of his punches on the inside end up being slaps because he's not used to shortening up his punches, apart from his right hook to the body which is a good punch on the inside. This is part of the reason why I think he should think about getting someone new to take over main training duties, he needs to improve in these areas if he wants to get to the next level.
              yep, he looks ineffective on the inside.

              A fight with Kessler or Abraham would still be close though.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Pollo Boricua
                Kelly should have punched him in the balls... then a sidekick to the head
                Jack Loew told him too, but Pavlik isn't a dip**** like Loew.

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                • Silencers
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by sparked_85
                  yep, he looks ineffective on the inside.

                  A fight with Kessler or Abraham would still be close though.
                  Definitely. I'm more willing to pick him over Abraham though.

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                  • hookoutofhell
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                    #19
                    lol i was pissing myself brother ****m was telling Hopkins how to employ his right hand later on in the fight, and it worked a treat, Hopkins in the latter rounds used his right hand to great effect and opened up a cut.

                    Loew kept telling him to double jab what a flipping idiot, it was obvious that by round 6 Pavlik couldn't get the double jab and instead of telling his fighter something else,like maybe try a feint(!), try and throw upper cuts on the inside and maybe throw punches when Hopkins is on the ropes. Loew just carried on spouting the same ****, when that didn't work he just left the main duties to the cutman!!!

                    and youre right they turned around and said to him dont worry you're not losing your championship its just this fight!!! lol!!

                    i think Pavlik needs to get himself to another trainer, if not at the very least he needs to get himself a good conditioner, one who can get him to carry the extra weight, pack on some real muscle and carry his power as he moves higher up the weight classes.

                    Its just going to be a matter of time before he gets too big for 160, when he does move up he needs to carry his power.

                    i guess it shows how amateurish his corner really are in the build up to the fight, whenever they were questioned about the weight limit for the fight the response was something along the lines of i should be healthier as i will be able to eat more!! WTF!!!!
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                    Last edited by hookoutofhell; 03-14-2011, 02:02 PM.

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                    • CardioMonster
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                      #20
                      a Plan A would have been nice

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